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All Forum Posts by: Jeffrey Hunter

Jeffrey Hunter has started 4 posts and replied 22 times.

Quote from @Ian Ippolito:
Quote from @Jeffrey Hunter:

I have come across amazing opportunities at a young age where it is likely that I could end up playing basketball professionally overseas for a few years! Of course, this is a huge decision for myself when it comes to where my future will go and how my investing journey will look. I do not currently own any properties yet. I plan on purchasing my first multi-family within the first year of graduating college. If my basketball journey ends up taking me overseas to play professionally, I question what my REI career would look like. How can I make it possible to buy property and have it managed properly while being on the complete opposite side of the world? Is it possible? Is it smart to invest in my property while not actually being able to have hands-on experience to learn about all the things that come along with being a landlord/property owner?


 I own properties directly and also invest in real estate passively through syndication/crowdfunding. And I believe both have their strengths and weaknesses and a place in a diversified portfolio.

However, if I were overseas, I would never try to purchase and/or manage directly owned properties while overseas (and especially if I had never done it before). In my opinion, it's a business (like any other) and requires adequate in-person management and supervision by the owner to avoid getting surprised by numerous things that can cause losses. And even if you intend to hire others to do some or all...they aren't fully aligned with you and still require adequate supervision (which, in my opinion, can't be done overseas).

And the main advantage of investing passively is that the investment manager will be very involved and avoid all those potential traps. And once you're done picking them...you're done and can concentrate on your basketball career. You will have to pay management fee ( versus putting in sweat equity in getting this for free with the direct investment). But, presuming you pick well, the manager will have years more experience and expertise than you would ever be able to acquire.

Good luck.


 Thank you! Would you say a lot less stress is involved when you are investing passively versus physically owning the property and managing it on your own? Especially if I happened to be overseas focusing on my career. 

Quote from @Brock Mogensen:

You likely want to look into investing in syndications as an LP.  Trying to buy and manage a portfolio from a different country is possible but going to be much more work and potential risk. If you have the cash to be able to invest $50K sums into syndication deals, it is a completely passive experience that will allow you to build a real estate portfolio with minimal time commitment. 

What would you suggest is the best way to get yourself involved in syndications with trustworthy investors that would want my business? 

Say a group of investors have been working together for years, what could I do with a limited amount of money, say $30k, to provide value to that group besides my money?
Quote from @Gino Barbaro:

@Jeffrey Hunter

What a great problem to have. You can always begin investing at any point in your life, but playing professionally may only come once or twice in your life.

I would select a market, start to build a team, and look for potential people to partner with. Learn how to work with third party property management.

You can also seek out others who are active in the market you're looking at, and see if you can join their team. 

This is probably the easiest way to start investing while focusing on playing professionally. When you decide to leave basketball, you will have real estate waiting for you.

Best of luck

Gino

Thanks Gino, 

I have considered buying property before I leave the States and allow myself some time to analyze and find a deal that is consistently cash flowing and running smoothly before leaving.
Following that, higher a property manager to run my property for me while still having a foot in the door for any problems that occur while being overseas. 

I've also thought of partnering with someone as a lender and using the money I have saved to partially be involved in the investment while being away and then starting my own personal portfolio when I am back - like you said, the real estate market will always be here waiting for me. 

I have come across amazing opportunities at a young age where it is likely that I could end up playing basketball professionally overseas for a few years! Of course, this is a huge decision for myself when it comes to where my future will go and how my investing journey will look. I do not currently own any properties yet. I plan on purchasing my first multi-family within the first year of graduating college. If my basketball journey ends up taking me overseas to play professionally, I question what my REI career would look like. How can I make it possible to buy property and have it managed properly while being on the complete opposite side of the world? Is it possible? Is it smart to invest in my property while not actually being able to have hands-on experience to learn about all the things that come along with being a landlord/property owner?

Post: BRRRR / House Hacking

Jeffrey HunterPosted
  • Keene, NH
  • Posts 22
  • Votes 13
Quote from @Steven Foster Wilson:
Quote from @Jeffrey Hunter:

Good afternoon everyone, 

it is such an amazing day to be alive! I just started reading David Greene's book The BRRRR Rental Property Investment Strategy Made Simple, and I came across a thought that I am sure will be answered somewhere throughout the book. Figured while it was fresh in my mind I'd ask on BP...

When using the BRRRR investment strategy, is it possible to still House Hack a multi-family property (Using BRRRR)?

I have heard before that they're two completely different strategies which confused me a little bit. Look forward to hearing a few responses, thanks!


Hey Jeffrey, I agree with the others here, these are two different strategies that will take some toll on you if you don't have any experience doing it just yet. Are you looking into getting your first home? If that's the case, FHA is a great starting point. You can do househacking and it can allow you to get started with appreciation and cashflow with very little down, you can even try and learn to BRRRR it like I did if you add value.

Yeah, I am honestly leading towards an FHA loan and house hacking in order put low down and begin gaining experience as a landlord, along with living for free. If I could find a fixer-upper and qualify for a 203k loan, I think that could also be beneficial to add value to the home and also gain experience rehabbing a property. That could obviously help me in the future if I decided to take on the BRRRR strategy. 

Post: BRRRR / House Hacking

Jeffrey HunterPosted
  • Keene, NH
  • Posts 22
  • Votes 13

If you could go back in time would you still house hack with 3.5-5% down instead of looking for a BRRRR property?

That all makes sense to me, but in the BRRRR book, David Greene suggests to a newbie, not buying a home until they have the capital to pay cash for your first home. Obviously, there are many different strategies that you can take on, but only one can be your first.

Realistically, I think putting 3.5-5% down on a duplex or triplex and house hacking it is much more likely for myself then finding the capital through saving or partnerships to finance a property. 

Do you have experience using this strategy or do you focus on a different one? Thanks, id love to connect and talk more!

Post: BRRRR / House Hacking

Jeffrey HunterPosted
  • Keene, NH
  • Posts 22
  • Votes 13

Good afternoon everyone, 

it is such an amazing day to be alive! I just started reading David Greene's book The BRRRR Rental Property Investment Strategy Made Simple, and I came across a thought that I am sure will be answered somewhere throughout the book. Figured while it was fresh in my mind I'd ask on BP...

When using the BRRRR investment strategy, is it possible to still House Hack a multi-family property (Using BRRRR)?

I have heard before that they're two completely different strategies which confused me a little bit. Look forward to hearing a few responses, thanks!

Quote from @Dennis Nguyen:

Bought my first house-hack a year after landing my first job. Best decision I've made! House-hacking helped me become a landlord, learn how to analyze deals, and also was a stepping stone for me into real estate investing. It wasn't a home run when I bought it, but it significantly reduced my living expenses while owning my own property was a huge win for me. Definitely no regrets. 

 Thats awesome. If you don't mind me asking, where did you buy and what did the numbers look like? I'd love to connect and talk more about your experience!

Quote from @Luka Milicevic:

Hindsight is always 20/20 so it's difficult to give this advice....

Mine would be to not waste my time with real estate and use every penny I have to buy bitcoin when it was a a fraction of a penny! Of course that's knowing it went to 60k. 

Realistically, I would say not to get held up on a few thousand dollars in price difference. I lost deals because I was off by what shouldn't kill a deal. I basically saved a few thousand dollars at the expense of a few hundred thousand at the end of the day.

The most important ingredient in RE is time. That's a big piece of advice I have for my past self. Building wealth takes time. 


Time is precious. Interesting to see your perspective and understanding that wealth is not made overnight. Unless you invested in Bitcoin the day before it went up 10,000%

Quote from @Thomas McCarthy:
Friggin do something!!  Don't wait until the "perfect" opportunity comes up.  There is no such thing.  Its going to be hard, there will be challenges, but where do you want to be in 10 years?  Still working paycheck to paycheck, cool car, nice apartment, but still having to work every single day?  Or do you want to start putting money that you have earned to work in assets that is giving you money back that you can in turn reinvest?  17 years ago I was trying (poorly I might ad) to be a realtor, the plan was to buy at least one condo a year for 5 years that in theory in 30 years would be paid off an bringing me a grand a month each or 60k a year.  Had I followed the plan instead of living paycheck to paycheck, driving the cool BMW and living in the fancy house, I would be 13 years away from that 60k a year which had I just done that, in today's market would be more like 120 - 140k a year.  Don't make excuses and find a way!

 Thomas, that was great advice. A good way of looking at things. I agree with you, I am not interested in working the paycheck to paycheck making someone else money. Thankfully, I am beginning to learn at a young age so I can afford to take some risk. With the right team - which I am currently trying to build - I am confident in myself! Everyone has their own path. 

How many properties do you own now and what type?