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All Forum Posts by: Jeffrey Coke

Jeffrey Coke has started 3 posts and replied 8 times.

Post: Looking to connect with Indiana property manager

Jeffrey Coke
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Quote from @Nick Giulioni:

Hi Jeffrey, I've started my real estate journey here in Indianapolis. Now, I have more than a hundred doors. I would love to help/share my experiences and chat with you more if you're interested.


 Nick thank you for the comment I sent you a DM.

Post: Looking to connect with Indiana property manager

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Quote from @Kenny Hall:

Hey @Jeffrey Coke! Would be happy to have a conversation and chat with you about multifamily in Indy.


 Kenny thank you for the reply message sent. 

Post: Best deal I have done so far.

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Quote from @John McKee:

Winner Winner Chicken Dinner!! Congrats on this deal! What was the most challenging part of you deal? Was it leasing? The 1031 time line? How did you find this deal? How many square feet? Any concessions for the tenant like free rent or TI? Does PMC mean property management Cost and shouldn't the tenant pay for that if it's a true NNN? Let's do a deep dive!


 Hello John, 

The building has been currently leased for 10k a month since I bought it at the end of 2019, but I have had 2 of my own companies in the building so essentially paying myself rent. I no longer needed the space as I have sold the 2 companies. This was my first 1031 and it was very easy on my side our real estate agent helped with the whole process as he sold our old building and found us a new one and recommended the intermediary for the 1031, we did have to pay some capital gains taxes on the 55k cash I kept back from the 1031 for the building renovation. PMC = Property Management Company

The building is a 5,000 sqft office/warehouse. The lease is $2.50 per sqft security deposit is $25k there is no free anything. As for the NNN, the tenet pays everything, property tax, maintenance, repairs, trash, water, electricity, no TI, etc. The only expense I have as the building owner is the PMC company at 8% and let me explain why the PMC expenses are mine. With the commercial lease, I could have used a broker or my attorney to draft the lease and would have paid roughly a 3% fee of the lease value 750k my fee would have been around 22k. Instead, I used my PMC that charges me monthly 8% of collected rents in this case $1,000 per month. I plan on selling the building in less than 12 months so my total expected cost will be no more than 12k out of pocket, half the cost of using a broker or attorney. When I sell the building my PMC has the opportunity to continue with the building if the new buyer wants which is just a bonus for them and they know I'm just going to go buy more for them to manage anyways. The reality is there is not 1 single commercial office/warehouse for sale or lease where I am. So the property gets a premium. I have purchased one commercial lot and am closing on another one end of April to build some more commercial space. Please let me know if I covered it all and thank you for asking the questions.
P.S. the PMC company I use here is great so I'm happy to give them the business.

Post: Best deal I have done so far.

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Investment Info:

Office Space commercial investment investment.

Purchase price: $465,000
Cash invested: $180,000

Bought this with the proceeds from 1031 used 125k down and 55k to renovate the building as 1 side was just a shell. We put in a new bathroom, conference room, kitchen/breakroom, 2 offices, lobby on one side. The other side was just paint and carpet. We currently just leased it NNN for $12,500 per month 5-year corp guarantee and 2% annual increases with two 3 year extension options. The only expense is the PMC at 8%. In the next 6 months, we will list the building for sale at 2.2M 6.25% cap.

Post: Best deal I have done so far.

Jeffrey Coke
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Investment Info:

Office Space commercial investment investment.

Purchase price: $465,000
Cash invested: $180,000

Bought this with the proceeds from 1031 used 125k down and 55k to renovate the building as 1 side was just a shell. We put in a new bathroom, conference room, kitchen/breakroom, 2 offices, lobby on one side. The other side was just paint and carpet. We currently just leased it NNN for $12,500 per month 5-year corp guarantee and 2% annual increases with two 3 year extension options. The only expense being the PMC at 8%. In the next 6 months, we will list the building for sale at 2.2M 6.25% cap rate.

Post: Looking to connect with Indiana property manager

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Quote from @Drew Sygit:

@Jeffrey Coke

In our experience, the #1 mistake owners make when selecting a Property Management Company (PMC) is ASSUMING instead of CONFIRMING.

It's often a case of not doing enough research, as they don't know what they don't know!

Owners mistakenly ASSUME all PMCs offer the exact SAME SERVICES and PERFORM those services EXACTLY THE SAME WAY, so price is the only differentiator.

So, the first question they usually ask a PMC is about fees - instead of asking about services and HOW those services are executed.

EXAMPLE: PMC states they will handle tenant screening – what does that specifically mean? What documents do they require, what credit scores do they allow, how do they verify previous rental history, etc.? You’d be shocked by how little actual screening many PMC’s do!

This also leads owners to ASSUME simpler is better when it comes to management contracts.

The reality is the opposite - if it's not in writing then the PMC doesn't have to provide the service or can charge extra for it!

We have a 14-page management contract that we've added our real experiences to over the years, with the intent of protecting both us AND the landlord. Beyond the Monthly Management, Placement & Maintenance fees, all other fees in our contract are IF EVENT -> THEN fees.

We don’t know any PMCs to recommend in the area mentioned, but since selecting the wrong PMC is usually more harmful than selecting a bad tenant, you might want to read our series about “How to Screen a PMC Better than a Tenant”:

https://www.biggerpockets.com/member-blogs/3094/91877-how-to-screen-a-pmc-better-than-a-tenant-part-1-services-and-processes

We recommend you get management contracts from several PMCs and compare the services they cover and, more importantly, what they each DO NOT cover.

EDUCATE YOURSELF - yes, it will take time, but will lead to a selection that better meets your expectations & avoids potentially costly surprises!

P.S. If you just hire the cheapest or first PMC you speak with and it turns into a bad experience, please don’t assume ALL PMC’s are bad and start trashing PMC’s in general. Take ownership of your mistake and learn to do the proper due diligence recommended above😊


 Drew thank you so much for the detailed information. I will definitely read your series on screening property managers. I know for this step investing in Indiana finding a great PMC will be very important as I live in Arizona and this will be my first out of state investment. 

Post: Looking to connect with Indiana property manager

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Quote from @Kerry Noble Jr:

what City in indiana are you looking?


 Hello Kerry, thank you for the reply. I'm looking around Indianapolis mainly but am open to going farther away from the city for an apartment building if the numbers work. Finding a great property manager is my first step in this area. I learned the hard way with my office buildings in Arizona and went through a few property managers till I found the rockstar I have now. 

Post: Looking to connect with Indiana property manager

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Hello all, my name is Jeff I am looking to start investing in some multifamily and small apartments (under 50 doors) in indiana. I want to talk with a few property managers in this area as I start building my team. I currently have commercial investment properties in Arizona and am ready to look at investing in multifamily housing. Thank you.