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All Forum Posts by: Jeanelle Ignacio

Jeanelle Ignacio has started 2 posts and replied 12 times.

Post: Need Rental Agreement, any suggestions?

Jeanelle IgnacioPosted
  • Investor
  • San Dimas, CA
  • Posts 12
  • Votes 9

I'm a pro member and I just use the state-specific ones here on BP.  So far they've met my needs.

Post: New Member Intro from SoCal

Jeanelle IgnacioPosted
  • Investor
  • San Dimas, CA
  • Posts 12
  • Votes 9
Quote from @Pandu Chimata:
Quote from @Jeanelle Ignacio:

Hi everyone!  I am so impressed by the wealth of information on this site.  I wanted to introduce myself, share my story and hope to network and learn from many of you in this group.

Professionally, I've been a Registered Nurse since 2001.  I have focused my career in critical care and enjoy teaching and mentoring future nurses.  I currently work full time in the medical device industry but looking forward to my next phase.  My husband and I have been involved in several businesses in health care and currently own "The Press" in Pomona, CA which is a screen printing and embroidery business specializing in graduation stoles/sashes.  

I consider myself a REI newbie but have always had an interest in this subject. When I was a broke nursing student searching for ways to fund my college and support my child (I was a young mom), I read this book Deals on Wheels by Lonnie Scruggs about flipping mobile homes. Long story short, I was able to purchase a mobile home repo in a great area for 17K and was able to see it at double the price with only a deep clean and interior paint job. That's where I was able to secure my down payment on my first home not too long after finishing nursing school. Granted that was 20 years ago but I decided to focus on my nursing career. Between my husband and I, outside of our primary home in San Dimas, CA we also have 3 SFR rentals. Our best cash flowing rental is a 5 bedroom home we rent by room. Our other rental is with college students, and the third with a family. We've been blessed to really not having any vacancy. Some folks do not like renting to college students, but we've had great success with that. Our business in Pomona also deals primarily with colleges, so we always have so many students looking for housing in our area.

Future goal is to grow our real estate assets.  I'd like to retire from my job but be able to just teach part time in a nursing college and help my husband build our businesses.  I'd like to focus on increasing cash flow from real estate to eventually retire from my 9-5.  I'd like to purchase a 4-plex next but also open to short-term rentals in the Oregon coast area.  I look forward to meeting and learning with you all!


 Welcome Neighbor. I am from Glendora.


 Oh hey neighbor!  So cool to see other locals on here!  

Post: The main benefits of becoming PRO?

Jeanelle IgnacioPosted
  • Investor
  • San Dimas, CA
  • Posts 12
  • Votes 9

Definitely worth going Pro as I did just recently. Love the tools/calculators, networking etc. Such a small investment compared to the 5K-25K to pay a guru. Definitely worth the ROI and several of their podcasts/YT videos have a discount code for going pro you can use.

Post: Looking for Los Angeles investors!

Jeanelle IgnacioPosted
  • Investor
  • San Dimas, CA
  • Posts 12
  • Votes 9

Hi Jesus.  Are you a wholesaler in the SoCal area?  I'm trying to connect with wholesalers specifically for Pomona and Riverside.  We've had success with college rentals and would love to connect with wholesalers in the area.

Post: Health Coverage for Landlords

Jeanelle IgnacioPosted
  • Investor
  • San Dimas, CA
  • Posts 12
  • Votes 9

Curious to see what you find out.  I still have my W2 job and covered with my insurance plan.  My husband and I also own a business (not real estate related) and a few rentals in Ca....but eventually I will be transitioning from my job to focus on our businesses.  I'd also like to offer health coverage to our employees besides ourselves in the near future....so I'll be in the same boat as you inquiring about health care coverage.  From my understanding for covered California, yes I believe it's your cash flow as they want self-employed folks to enter both income and expenses.

My husband and I also own a manufacturing/embroidery business and are looking to invest into a commercial complex as well.  We've had loans with the SBA and looking at the SBA 504 loans like Cason mentioned.  I believe you have to occupy at least 51% of the space and it's 10% down.  We've been working on establishing our business credit (as we just restructured our business entity) as it's a tad different than personal credit.

Quote from @Marco Tolento:

Hi Jeanelle,

First and Foremost I'd advice to consult your CPA and attorney on the matter. The following is opinion and my experiences. Anyone is free to challenge or change my mind as, like many here, I'm here to learn first and share what I know second:

Your husband's parents could sell the commercial property at that discounted rate to you and your husband on an installment plan (Seller Carry). Your in-laws will benefit from receiving a designated amount (a CPA will be able to calculate this amount for you) to reduce, or potentially mitigate the total tax implication based on their marginal tax rate brackets. This poses drawbacks as well. Most notably, you will now have a tax basis at the discounted purchase price. 
Example here: 
If you buy the building for $700k even though the value is $1m, you will now have a tax basis of $700k in the building. In this example will will use very basic numbers for the sake of clarity, but if 50% of the $700k was building and the other 50% was land, then you would only be entitled to depreciate a total amount of $350k at it's respective depreciation rate (building, improvements, Fixtures, etc.)

an installment plan at Fair Market Value ($1m) on favorable terms may be an option. Similar to the the example above, a Seller Carry loan can allow you to own the property at its present market value and pay back the full amount over a desired timespan at fair interest rate. This can extend pass their lifetime, and if structured correctly, could allow for a steeper discount than that of the $700k potential sale price (CPA will guide you further).

Gifting bites into their lifetime gifting limit, but at $1m value, they're presumably far below that. The reality, though, is that if they're receiving compensation for their gift, then it really isn't a gift to begin with. Gifting also has implications in terms of your tax basis as well. In fact, considerably worse than the example above, considering the Donor (Gift Giver)'s cost( adjusted tax) basis, carries over to the recipient (You and your husband). This means if they bought the property for $100k, that is YOUR new tax basis in the property. See example above for further.

Another approach, a bit more creative, would be to have your in-laws place the property into a trust with you and your husband as the beneficiaries. With this, your in-laws will own the property until they're both deceased, then the trust will kick in and you and your husband will be the beneficiaries of the property and enjoy it at its brand new stepped up basis (Fair Market Value) at time of death and own it in its entirety.
A way to make this work, and that will allow for your in-laws to make additional income (potential purchase price) is to build, as permitting will allow, the additional units you mentioned, therefore increasing their opportunity for more cashflow. Instead of paying your parents directly, you could create an entity that manages said properties. The difference in cashflow could be their payments on "purchase price". If you and your husband are managing the property on your in-laws behalf, you can have them pay Management Fees to your entity to either cover any loans you may have taken for construction. While you may not get a property today, at date the trust kicks in, you'll have a considerably greater tax basis than the $1m now, and if you've been managing the property throughout, then only thing that will change is the name of the owner and who gets to keep the money at the end of the day. This is a significantly longer play, but will give you the exposure to running and operating a commercial space. Say your in-laws live for 15 years, and 10 of those 15 you've established and built a successful operation, ownership of this will then give you the opportunity to have the confidence to cash out refi and invest in another space and rinse, repeat. 

I hope this was helpful. Best of luck on your real estate journey!
Marco


 Wow Marco.  Such thorough and valuable insight in your response!  Yes, definitely running this all through with both our CPA and attorney, but I love hearing the experiences from those who've been through this.  The property is actually in a trust and the idea of setting up another entity like you mentioned to include both us and his parents was brought up.  We've also thought of sub-diving the property separating the board and care, and us just purchasing half the lot so his parents can still receive rental income from half the property and we'd get a separate address for our lot.  This just seems complicated as a board and care business and property is involved.  I truly appreciate your time to share your experience!!  I noticed you are in Socal too!

Quote from @Bjorn Ahlblad:

If 'gifting' is an option that can be a win-win. We are doing that with our kids. Check it out with your accountant.


 Yes, definitely looking into gifting options as well.  Definitely will follow up with our CPA.

Quote from @Steve Vaughan:
Quote from @Jeanelle Ignacio:

This is my first post for some insight on this great forum...and it's got a ton of moving pieces.

My husband's parents own commercial property (free & clear/no mortgage) on a large lot that has a board and care (assisted living) facility.  They are retired, and are currently leasing that board and care business for about 5K/month (which is low in this industry).  The property is valued at about $1,000,000 and they are open to selling this to us for less than that ($700-$800K).  Their main concern is the tax implications from such a large sale.  Not sure if this type of transaction would be best to put in a trust.  They are open to seller financing.  If we move forward with purchasing this property, we plan to build additional 4-8 units (pending on what is permitted) while maintaining the original board and care facility.  Rental prices are crazy here in SoCal so we wanted to make the best use of the large lot of this property.

I do plan to speak to my CPA and lawyer about this.  I am curious to hear if anyone here has any creative strategies for acquiring the property and/or suggestions for decreasing tax implications.  Thanks for you insight.


 Seller financing was the most tax efficient method to exit long appreciated assets for me.  

The tax hit is essentially spread out over the length of the installments.

Find a RE-focused CPA / EA.  


 Thanks for your response Steve.  I figured this is a great option to spread out the tax hit over time while generating some interest income for the seller.

This is my first post for some insight on this great forum...and it's got a ton of moving pieces.

My husband's parents own commercial property (free & clear/no mortgage) on a large lot that has a board and care (assisted living) facility.  They are retired, and are currently leasing that board and care business for about 5K/month (which is low in this industry).  The property is valued at about $1,000,000 and they are open to selling this to us for less than that ($700-$800K).  Their main concern is the tax implications from such a large sale.  Not sure if this type of transaction would be best to put in a trust.  They are open to seller financing.  If we move forward with purchasing this property, we plan to build additional 4-8 units (pending on what is permitted) while maintaining the original board and care facility.  Rental prices are crazy here in SoCal so we wanted to make the best use of the large lot of this property.

I do plan to speak to my CPA and lawyer about this.  I am curious to hear if anyone here has any creative strategies for acquiring the property and/or suggestions for decreasing tax implications.  Thanks for you insight.