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All Forum Posts by: James DeRoest

James DeRoest has started 5 posts and replied 926 times.

Originally posted by @Marian Smith:

2.8 average per landlord is interesting to me because I was once told being a landlord was only worth the hassle with 3 properties..

I'd say that was true.

You can do it with less, but if you're trying to take any sort of income, no matter how small, then 3 gets you to a point of continually collecting rents. It's too easy with 2 properties to have both empty at the same time or to be taking an expense on 2 on the same month, with 3, not quite so likely, and so forth.

The more you have, the more the income evens out. (Obviously).

Post: Is your home just another property?

James DeRoestPosted
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  • Century, FL
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Originally posted by @Brent Coombs:
Originally posted by @James DeRoest:

I think they need to earn more money then, or what most people should do - spend less.

Real estate investing is an expensive game, you can't expect to play this game with peanuts.

So using the same logic, no-one should buy their home until they can pay all cash?

Because otherwise, they're foolishly putting their family at risk?

Hmmm. I don't see you being a speaker in the Real Estate guru* circuit in your future.

* Funnily enough, Dave Ramsey seems to have the opposite view - OK to have a mortgage on your own home (he has SOME realistic views), but only pay cash for everything else including investment properties. [I often wonder if he accepts credit card to pay for his seminars!]...

 No, I'm saying don't put your family at any greater risk than you have to.

As I said, most people are trying to play this game with either no money, or no control over their personal spending, so their only option is to mortgage their home to get ahead. And that gets them precisely - one property ahead.

Post: Is your home just another property?

James DeRoestPosted
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I think they need to earn more money then, or what most people should do - spend less.

Real estate investing is an expensive game, you can't expect to play this game with peanuts.

Post: Is your home just another property?

James DeRoestPosted
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  • Century, FL
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Originally posted by @Brent Coombs:

@James DeRoest, I reckon couples who are BOTH on board with the idea of a revolving HELOC on their own home, specifically for the purpose of investing in value-for-money properties only, are likely to end up being able to retire on their passive income - sooner* than you! Cheers...

* Even sooner, if they both think of their own home MAINLY as an investment, before buying them!

 My home doesn't need to be an investment. I'm in my early 40s, I could have retired on passive income two years ago, why would I ever risk my home?

I have met property investors who risked their homes and lost their homes. Explaining to your wife why you are now homeless is not on my bucket list. Now it maybe on yours, that's great, but mine, nope, not ever.

As for a philosophical point - what sort of man would ever risk losing the home of his wife and family? Draw a line for heavens sake when it comes to your family.

Post: Is your home just another property?

James DeRoestPosted
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  • Century, FL
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My home is my home. It doesn't get counted when people ask how many houses we own, it doesn't get mortgaged for the business or anything. It's where my wife and my dogs live, and it's untouchable. It is their home. No matter what problems I face outside, when I come home, there are no problems.

We do have a new house we're moving to, that will become home, and the previous place becomes a unit. Simple as that. But the same rules apply. Absolutely nothing gets attached to the new house.

I have never understood investors who put their homes on the line, as ultimately, you are risking the roof over your family. Never understood that. 

Post: Cash for Keys - pros and cons

James DeRoestPosted
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Originally posted by @Michele Fischer:

The con of using cash for keys is swallowing your pride and realizing that it is the best option for you and your tenant and the cheapest and fastest way to get back to a better situation.

We move forward with the legal process parallel to offering cash for keys, so we lose no time.  We turn all owed money into collections, so it hits the credit report for other landlords to see.  We treat it as a privilege not a right, we are in control, not at our tenants mercy.

Landlords should do everything in their power to research actual prior addresses and contact those property owners, not just rely on the eviction portion of the screening report.

If we treat the people who are building our wealth with respect and compassion, maybe we'll see better results.

 Here we go again.

How can a landlord research an application, if the previous landlords are willing to circumvent the whole system - and prevent future landlords finding a well deserved eviction? You push you're lack of backbone onto others by saying "look past the eviction for other things". Do you really think a tenant is going to put your name down as a previous landlord reference? Really now?

The fact you have to pay your delinquent tenants to leave says "I'm not in control" all over it. You are exactly at the mercy of your tenants by the very definition you paid extortion money!

And wth? "If we treat the people who are building our wealth with respect and compassion, maybe we'll see better results."

You're new to this, aren't you? I can tell.

Post: Cash for Keys - pros and cons

James DeRoestPosted
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Originally posted by @Jeff B.:

Going down the eviction route, I've had two results as one was not adversarial and the other was.  The process kills time and that impacts financial results regardless.  In the last adversarial eviction, I again attempted cash-for-keys to no avail.  The tenant was resolved to possess rent free as long as possible.  SO, to "help out our fellow owner/operators with public records", I formally evicted and my self-righteousness earned me $9,500 in damages -- that's ten months to recoup AFTER the unit was restored .  Anyone want to put their money into this campaign?

I'm really not following your post.

You had a tenant that you had to evict, so you offered cash for keys, they didn't take the cash wanting to remain in your property for as long as possible, you then state "to help out fellow blah blah" you went down the eviction route, and the tenant beat up your apartment?

If the tenant isn't taking cash for keys, then you have no alternative to evict. 

It's not the fault of everyone else that you chose that route, you were forced into it by the tenant. You didn't evict for the good of other landlords, you evicted to get access to your investment again! What was the alternative? Free accommodation for the rest of the tenants life?

Post: Cash for Keys - pros and cons

James DeRoestPosted
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Originally posted by @Bobby Narinov:

Hmmm. I was hoping to get more interest on this one.

I guess people don't want to argue the pros and cons of rewarding bad behavior. 

 It's a topic that's come up on BP before, and those of us who believe tenants deserve an eviction on their credit report just get shouted down by those who tell us "it's just financial sense" and start paying the extortion money.

Post: Appliances in rentals....to do or not to do?

James DeRoestPosted
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  • Century, FL
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Originally posted by @Account Closed:
Originally posted by @Christine Mwai:

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Honestly, tenants don't call about problems with fridges not cooling enough - unless the fridge isn't cooling enough, in my experience.  Something is wrong with the fridge.  Maybe it's intermittent.  

Yes they do.

We had one, she was angling for a new fridge. Kept telling us it wouldn't cool, so we'd go in, see that it was set to 1 and told her "there's your problem". 

We would turn it to say 7, it'd start cooling, and just after we left, she'd turn it back to 1. A day later we'd get a call again "not cooling". So we'd go back in and there it was, back at 1. She was so dumb she forgot to put the fridge back to 7 when we rechecked.

Refused to run the fridge at more than 1 because she was frightened about her electricity bill! So she wanted a brand new energy efficient fridge. She showed us a picture of the one she wanted and where we could buy it.

She didn't last long with us.

Post: How many property managers have you been through?

James DeRoestPosted
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3.

First one couldn't be bothered as it wasnt a beach rental.

Second one stuck anyone with a pulse in, never got money, and we got continual demands for cleaners and repairs.

Third stole $4k.