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All Forum Posts by: William Morrison

William Morrison has started 2 posts and replied 173 times.

Post: Fixed up very small house to flip, but doesn't sell. Please Help

William MorrisonPosted
  • Investor
  • Silver Spring, MD
  • Posts 178
  • Votes 60

Bad news.  A quick look not to far away brings up 5 properties close to the same SF either for sale or sold recently.  $55k to $65k maybe more.  You can fix one up but you'll have a tough time getting more than 20 to 30% more in the same size range.  One although larger sold in the $90 plus range.
The second problem, the house sizes and ages in the area are eclectic.   A buyer is more likely to move up into the middle range for a very small change in monthly payment.  Some had golf course access include or available as well.

Post: How far is too far away to own rental properties?

William MorrisonPosted
  • Investor
  • Silver Spring, MD
  • Posts 178
  • Votes 60
Originally posted by @Justin Fox:

@William Morrison

It takes me about 3 minutes to get to either of my properties right now.  I can imagine having a rental in Houston and it taking 25 minutes to get to the end of the street lol.  Closer the better.  If they come knocking, I'll turn the lights off and tell everyone to shush haha.  

 I love it.  Like Halloween night when you got home late from work and forgot to buy candy, just turn the lights out.  Let me know how that shush works.  More Grins

Post: How far is too far away to own rental properties?

William MorrisonPosted
  • Investor
  • Silver Spring, MD
  • Posts 178
  • Votes 60
Originally posted by @Justin Fox:

How often you'll be at the property depends on the quality of rental and tenants really.  Too far is subjective really.  Do you want to be on the road for 4 hours (round trip) if the AC goes out and you need to slap some window units in it until the AC man can get out the following Monday?  Do you want to drive 4 hours again to remove them?

May not be that often, but driving 4 hours once would be one time too many personally.  My rentals are both ~2 miles away.  I honestly couldn't imagine even driving 30 minutes to and from now.

Hey Justin 5 miles is 20 minutes in some areas.  You know that place you can't to from here.  Grin.  They just put a toll road in that makes ours 10 minutes closer.  Good for us.

Post: How far is too far away to own rental properties?

William MorrisonPosted
  • Investor
  • Silver Spring, MD
  • Posts 178
  • Votes 60

When my wife and I started we had about three distance rules.
1. Close like on our street, neighborhood or a multi family you live in.  Not for us.  This could also be the rental type ie tenant that you have to collect the check in person.
2. 20 minutes or so away, this is what we chose.  We managed the properties and at about 20 minutes it was easy to get to but we didn't expect the tenant to knock on our door.  It's worked pretty well.  These are rentals at a price and neighborhood where the tenants are used to mailing a check on time.
3. An hour or more away I expected to have a PM and we do.  They are actually more than an hour.  Tough to respond 2 hours away.

Post: Travel expenses to look at real estate for purchase?

William MorrisonPosted
  • Investor
  • Silver Spring, MD
  • Posts 178
  • Votes 60
Originally posted by @Brandon Hall:

@William Morrison @Patrick Liska if you do not own any investment property whatsoever, your travel expenses will not be deductible. You will have to capitalize them as start-up costs and either deduct or add to the basis of the property once you actually purchase a rental.

If you already have a rental and you are travelling to explore new markets, these are considered expansion costs and will only be deductible if it involves an activity "within the compass" of your existing rental. Basically, you must incur these costs as part of the normal expansion of your business.

The IRS has consistently held that a landlord's business only exists in the geographic area of his/her current rental(s). The IRS and the tax court take a very narrow view of what defines a "geographic area."

This means that if you own rentals in CA and fly to FL to explore new rental markets, these costs are no deductible and are going to be considered start-up costs. Two tax court cases provide precedence for this view: O'Donnell v Comm'r 1962 and Odom v Comm'r TC Memo 1982.

You can listen to and believe what you want, but those two court cases will be used when you're audited and you'll be out of luck.

 Thanks Brandon,  When I've traveled to date, I've done enough investigation before going to know I'm most likely buying.  And so far I have.  And yes it's added to the basis for me.
I have been looking at two places now that are not so close to each other (maybe 6 hour drive) and across state lines with the idea of only buying in one.  It more about adding just one more multi state tax requirement as opposed to two. Grin. 

Originally posted by @Tiffany Ward:

Thanks to everyone who replied. I have a concern about paying a property manager extra to get a unit rented out.  Doesn't this promote hasty tenant selection and turnover?  Is there a better way to get the units rented and compensate the property manager in a way that allows their goals to better align with mine?

I have seen some creative ways to get the property placement firms to act on your behalf here on BP.  You can ask when interviewing your PM for their turnover rate.  It still comes down to future trust and relationship.

Post: 1031 exchange

William MorrisonPosted
  • Investor
  • Silver Spring, MD
  • Posts 178
  • Votes 60

Don't assume the state rules match the federal rules.
Time to hold and claw back provisions may not be the same as the federal.
That's just two that I've dealt with.
I found that 1031 professionals will do a free pre-screen with you to see if they will take you as a client.  I'm talking a few minutes here, not financial planning event.  Grin

I have found 6 to 10% normal depending on the State and what you ask them to do.  But the one's I've worked with or have contacted might work with, all have a minimum and your rents wouldn't cover it.  One is 8% with a minimum rent of I think it was $500 or $600.  I don't have any under $900 so I forgot the actual number.  Another is 6% because of the number of properties, but with them I have no rents under $1,500 and all have nice schools ie neighborhoods.

As @Jose Guevarra mentioned, I have found monthly flat rate PMs but after talking to them I found them to be a whole different class of PM.  They were more of a freelance employee.  Very little provided, much more than a phone number for tenants and minimal support.

Separate tenant placement fee from operational PM.  Same office, maybe same person but a different service.  Some are a half to a whole month rent with a minimum.  Some charge a fee again when a lease is up, maybe 1/2 the original placement fee.

Post: How the heck do you guys get all this money for multiple houses?!

William MorrisonPosted
  • Investor
  • Silver Spring, MD
  • Posts 178
  • Votes 60
Originally posted by @Matt Rosenbohm:

As mentioned in previous responses, I believe the best way to get started is buy your first investment as a primary residents and use the FHA or Conventional lending programs to minimize your down payment (cash out of pocket). You will need to live in the property for at least 6 months, but can then transition in into a rental and move somewhere else. Generally these types of programs allow you to put only 3-5% down. This is how may people get started.

Secondly, I would recommend looking into a portfolio lender ( a local bank in your area). These type of lenders often do not require the same strict guidelines as a national mortgage lender would. For example, I know that most local banks do not require you to have 6 moths reserves in order to buy your rental property. The other real advantage is that national lending companies will not give you credit for the rental income (towards your qualifying income to buy the property) unless it has been on your tax returns for 2 years or more. Local Banks will often allow you to use 75% of projected rents towards your qualifying income. 

 Matt, great post.  My daughter bought knowing she might move and rent later.  She checked and the enforcement method seems to be different from place to place.  Maybe less in some and more in others, some say a year.  What was consistent, you do have to move in and show an intent to stay.
She went in with the 5% down which went down to 3% just a little later, same source.  Her closing attorney took her through the loan and showed her the language or lack there of when she asked at closing.  Moving in, change of address cards, driver's license for sure, he showed her the time frame was not so well defined.
She ended up staying longer, 18 months so didn't test it. 

Post: How the heck do you guys get all this money for multiple houses?!

William MorrisonPosted
  • Investor
  • Silver Spring, MD
  • Posts 178
  • Votes 60
Originally posted by @Account Closed:

Thank you for the advice guys! What if I were to just keep moving into each rental property I plan to purchase? If it is owner occupied, doesn't that typically lower the down payment amount or is that only for VA/FHA loans, not conventional?

 Not a bad way to proceed if you're not trying to settle down right now.  You've probably heard a little about buy right and the rest works easier, not perfect but easier.  Grin.  Your total Debt to Income will come in as you move to your second and third property.
Personal education is important.  Not the single answer in a discussion or one page web answers, but in depth knowledge.  You want a good source on a lifetime personal budget model you might like to check out "The Richest Man in Babylon" by George S. Clason.