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All Forum Posts by: John C.

John C. has started 7 posts and replied 13 times.

Post: Cash Reserves & Scaling.

John C.Posted
  • Investor
  • NJ / NY
  • Posts 13
  • Votes 3

In looking to scale, do lenders largely expect you to maintain reserves (~6 months) for stabilized properties you already own when looking to underwrite future deals? 

Obviously, it benefits them to do so to mitigate their risk. However, if you're very actively looking to scale and extrapolate this out, at some point you're sitting on a pile of idle cash. Maybe a silly question, but asking it regardless.

Post: Water Sub-metering: Cloud/Remote Solutions?

John C.Posted
  • Investor
  • NJ / NY
  • Posts 13
  • Votes 3
Quote from @Nathan Gesner:
Quote from @John C.:

Hiya,

I wasn't sure which sub-forum this belonged to, so apologies ahead of time.

I'm looking at sub-metering a property, and was wondering if anyone has found good solutions for tracking water usage from afar? I've found large commercial cloud/internet tracking solutions, but, for the time being, I only really need to worry about 2-4 unit properties. If anyone has any suggestions or experience with something that could solve my dilemma, I'd appreciate it!

-JC


I think it's too much work/cost to bother with. Why not get an average, split it based on a formula, and bill it each month with rent? I split the average then add 15% to cover abuse/neglect. It's rare that a Landlord loses money.

HOW TO SHARE UTILITIES 101

You have a property with two or more units and the utility meters are shared. There are a few options.

1. Pay to separately meter the utility. This can be very expensive and is usually the worst choice to make because you can't justify the cost.

2. Charge the tenants a higher rent rate and include utilities with their rent. This is the simplest method, but it also means your tenants are more likely to abuse the utilities by leaving windows open with the heat or A/C running, leaving lights on, ignoring the toilet that constantly flushes on its own, etc.

3. Pay the bill yourself, then reimburse yourself by charging the tenants based on a formula. This takes a little more work, but it's the most fair and reduces the likelihood of tenants that squander utilities.

If you choose #2 or #3, there are considerations:

Start with an average. Use varies throughout the year. Heating costs go up in winter, as does electric due to the reduced natural light and people being indoors more. Electric can also spike in the summer with A/C. Contact the utility provider and get an historical average based on the last year of use. It won't be 100% accurate, but it will be close enough. I recommend you do this each year to adjust for utility increases and other variables. If your average heating bill is $150, you may not collect enough in the winter months when the bill reaches $225 but you'll collect extra in the summer when it drops to $65. If you base your tenant charges on the historical average, you should come very close to collecting the entire amount over a one-year period.

Charge a higher rate. If the water bill is $100 a month, increase the price by 20% (or whatever you decide is fair) to compensate you for the time required to split and bill and to cover additional use when tenants squander the utility. If the bill is $100 a month split between four units, increase it to $120 and charge each tenant $30.

How to calculate charges. Don't make it harder than it has to be. If you have four 2bed/1bath units with the same appliances, split it four ways and call it a day. You can make minor adjustments based on the type of appliances (dishwasher, clothes washer and dryer, air conditioning, etc.) and the size of the rental. If Apartment A is a 2bed/1bath with washer/dryer and Apartment B is a 1bed/1bath with no washer/dryer, Apartment A should pay a higher rate. Another option is to split the cost based on the number of occupants in each unit but this also means you'll need to adjust the charges as tenants move in/out, so it requires more work and I wouldn't recommend it. I recommend a simple spreadsheet to check your math and it will make it simple to adjust each year.

End the complaints. Tenants may complain about your method of calculating how much each unit pays. They think it's unfair because they only shower once a week but they can hear the upstairs neighbor showering twice a day. You can put an end to this by showing them an actual utility bill. Why? Because a large percentage of the charges are base fees that do not change based on use!

I just looked at a utility bill and it has a total charge of $184.12 but $116.50 is from base fees! If I divide this bill by four units, each tenant would pay $46.03. If they were separately metered, each tenant would pay the $116.50 base fees and their individual use, which would be 3x higher than what they pay when sharing a meter.

There are a lot of options out there, but don't make it more complicated than it needs to be. Tenants actually save money when using a shared meter, so there's plenty of room for error when calculating how to distribute the charges.

That's very helpful and comprehensive, thank you for the response!

In this specific case, I've largely figured out how to effectively split the water in the property without too much effort. So, I'm not too worried about the cost. This property is also in a class A neighborhood where potential tenants are likely to reject the formula-derived approach. Ideally, I'd like to have the separate meters and bill the units without having to personally drive over and read the meters every month.

Post: Water Sub-metering: Cloud/Remote Solutions?

John C.Posted
  • Investor
  • NJ / NY
  • Posts 13
  • Votes 3

Hiya,

I wasn't sure which sub-forum this belonged to, so apologies ahead of time.

I'm looking at sub-metering a property, and was wondering if anyone has found good solutions for tracking water usage from afar? I've found large commercial cloud/internet tracking solutions, but, for the time being, I only really need to worry about 2-4 unit properties. If anyone has any suggestions or experience with something that could solve my dilemma, I'd appreciate it!

-JC

Following with interest.

Post: Lenders doing <20% down on NOO Multi-Families

John C.Posted
  • Investor
  • NJ / NY
  • Posts 13
  • Votes 3

Thanks for the input, gents! Really appreciate it.

Post: <20% Down on NOO Multi-Families

John C.Posted
  • Investor
  • NJ / NY
  • Posts 13
  • Votes 3

Thank you. I understand the trade-off. Just looking for lenders willing to put together a package that makes sense for both of us.

Post: Lenders doing <20% down on NOO Multi-Families

John C.Posted
  • Investor
  • NJ / NY
  • Posts 13
  • Votes 3

I'm looking at a few high-quality duplexes in highly resilient areas of NJ. What are my financing options? Local banks? portfolio lenders?

I would really like a ~15-20% down with a 30-year amort, would flex on either of those given the right package. I recall some mentions on BP of 10-15% downpayment lenders floating about.

Ultimately, looking for lenders doing sub-20% down on NOO multi-families to form a relationship with for the foreseeable future.

Post: <20% Down on NOO Multi-Families

John C.Posted
  • Investor
  • NJ / NY
  • Posts 13
  • Votes 3

I'm looking at a few high-quality duplexes in highly resilient areas of NJ. What are my financing options? Local banks? portfolio lenders?

I would really like a ~15-20% down with a 30-year amort, would flex on either of those given the right package. I recall some mentions on BP of 10-15% downpayment lenders floating about.

Ultimately, looking for lenders doing sub-20% down on NOO multi-families to form a relationship with for the foreseeable future.

If I wanted to purchase a multi-family property with the intention to use an owner-occupied FHA loan and the current tenants have 6+ months left on their leases, how would I best navigate this situation?

Could I offer cash for keys to one of the tenants to vacate within 60 days of closing (I believe that's the window necessary to move residences for the mortgage)? If so, what would be the best way to go about doing that contractually in the offer to satisfy the seller? 

Expanding on the title, the multifamily home market dried up in my desired zip codes recently. If I shift to buying a first-time homebuyer, 3% DP SFH (with the intention to owner occupy), then how long realistically would I have to wait to take advantage of a 3.5% DP FHA on a MF opportunity should one come across my desk?