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All Forum Posts by: Jayden B.

Jayden B. has started 2 posts and replied 10 times.

Post: If you had a 100k to invest what would you do with it?

Jayden B.Posted
  • Bluffdale, UT
  • Posts 10
  • Votes 3
Originally posted by @Rick Albert:

@Jayden Boysun

Current rent for the first. For example if you collect $2000 a month, the lender will use $1500 towards your DTI. They generally will count projected income on the second purchase (while in escrow) if it is a legal 2-4 unit.

 Is there a minimum amount of months you have to collect that “rent” for them to accept it? 

Post: If you had a 100k to invest what would you do with it?

Jayden B.Posted
  • Bluffdale, UT
  • Posts 10
  • Votes 3
Originally posted by @Account Closed:

@Andrew Scheuffele There are many rules regarding these sort of strategies obviously and you should consult a licensed lender. I'm happy to recommend the lender our team uses if you'd like!

 That would be great!

Post: If you had a 100k to invest what would you do with it?

Jayden B.Posted
  • Bluffdale, UT
  • Posts 10
  • Votes 3
Originally posted by @Rick Albert:
Originally posted by @Jayden B.:
Originally posted by @Rick Albert:

Have you thought about doing a second house hack?  That way you can put less money down with a better interest rate and keep the townhouse as a rental?  SLC has a lot going for it (I have family out in South Jordan).

So what implications does that cause with it not being my primary residence? I don' think the bank will let me do an FHA or conventional loan if its not my primary?

When you got the loan on your current property, the intention was that you lived there for a year.  After you move out, there is nothing the lender can do.  That loan is locked in place.  Just don't refinance unless it makes absolute sense.

Because it would be another house hack/primary residence, you get the same benefits as before. The lender will take the 75% of the rent of your townhouse towards your DTI.

You are allowed one active FHA loan per borrower. For example my first property was conventional 10% down. My second house hack was the FHA 203(k). I have since refinanced out of that loan so if I wanted to go FHA again I could.

Hope this helps.

This does help a lot, I appreciate it a lot. When you say the lender will take into account 75% of the rent towards dti. Do you mean future rent for the second property or current rent for the first?

Post: If you had a 100k to invest what would you do with it?

Jayden B.Posted
  • Bluffdale, UT
  • Posts 10
  • Votes 3
Originally posted by @Account Closed:

@Jayden Boysun That's a great question, a definitely a good problem to have imo! 100k equity!

Is this townhouse your primary residence? If so you could take out a HELOC.

Additionally as you mentioned, depending on what your current interest rate is, you could do a cash out refinance.

Lots of the clients my team and I work with are buying long term investment properties and either using the BRRRR method or buying turnkey and just renting it out. This allows you to greatly leverage your initial investment over time! If you're not familiar with BRRRR method I'd highly suggest looking into in!

Housing prices are projected to continue to rise over the next 5 years in UT and although there are less sellers due to the holidays, there are still just as many buyers and houses going UC as the summer months.

It is my primary residence, and I would like to take out a HELOC. However does that ultimately mean buying a rental property as my secondary residence and having to put down 20%? I don't know what ways there are to get around that ultimate demise of having to use all of that heloc money.

Post: If you had a 100k to invest what would you do with it?

Jayden B.Posted
  • Bluffdale, UT
  • Posts 10
  • Votes 3
Originally posted by @Account Closed:

@Jayden Boysun

Hi Jayden, If it were me I would keep the home and continue to house hack. I would then do a HELOC on the home to purchase a short term rental that will generate more income than a LTR or house hack. Obviously you would need to find a STR that would also pay back the amount of the HELOC and still cash flow. There are a lot of markets here that may be options (may) such as Salt Lake City, Hurricane (capture travelers to the national parks), Garden City (aka Bear Lake) or more expensive markets like Moab or Washington County (St.George). Or a market near hospitals to capture traveling nurses.

Or another purchase alternative is another Single Family Home or even Townhouse near a college and you can do a rent by room, depending on local tenants laws.

I am personally investing in Garden City for a STR.

Those are just my ideas…

My biggest concern is getting approved for another loan on a STR or LTR with just the HELOC for the down payment? Financially I don't think my debt to income ratio would be low enough to support both being my residence and not a rental property. What loan would I be able to use to purchase another rental without it being my primary and not having to put 20% down?

Post: If you had a 100k to invest what would you do with it?

Jayden B.Posted
  • Bluffdale, UT
  • Posts 10
  • Votes 3
Originally posted by @Rick Albert:

Have you thought about doing a second house hack?  That way you can put less money down with a better interest rate and keep the townhouse as a rental?  SLC has a lot going for it (I have family out in South Jordan).

So what implications does that cause with it not being my primary residence? I don' think the bank will let me do an FHA or conventional loan if its not my primary?

Post: If you had a 100k to invest what would you do with it?

Jayden B.Posted
  • Bluffdale, UT
  • Posts 10
  • Votes 3

I live in Salt Lake City, Utah and as most know the market here is among the most inflated across the country. I was lucky enough to get ahead of the curve and purchased a townhouse in august of 2020. I currently have about 100k in equity to date from when I purchased. The plan was originally to rent the basement as studio apartment just to help out with savings, while the basement is yet to be completed I started to rent one of the upstairs rooms until it is. Meanwhile as the housing market is holding steady and median house price hasn't changed much in the last 6 months. I can't help but worry that I need to make a move and secure equity in my house before its too late.

That brings me to the next question, where do I go from here? I make about 80k a year and have little to no debt (not including the house) no car payments and a decent amount in savings. I don't know what is the best move in finding my next investment. House flipping isn't really a thing here in Utah, because everyone is willing to spend millions on houses that are trashed and from the 80's because the market is still so competitive even with things slowing down. I thought about doing a cash out refinance and looking for a rental property to fully rent out the entire space. I even thought about a commercial property, maybe even a plot of land for storage just to generate some limited attention properties because I work 12 hour days 5 days a week. I have a lot of ideas and I know whatever direction I go, there is enough info online that I can figure out how to actually carry out on project. I'm just still a little lost and what way would be the best for my position to get maximum leverage on my equity income.

I would appreciate the input!

Post: What kind of property should I be looking for?

Jayden B.Posted
  • Bluffdale, UT
  • Posts 10
  • Votes 3
Originally posted by @Reggie Maggard:

Ok, check this out. Get a realtor and start looking through properties on a regular basis. Cast a wide net and think along the lines of how you can make this thing produce fruit. Run the numbers using the calculators on here if new. Then research other ways. Get all over social media and spread the word that your hungry and looking to purchase a property if someone is about ready to retire and move to Florida. Have all your ducks in a row. Consider the first property 'education', that doesn't mean get screwed over, but take the best deal is sometimes the best move.

 Thats a great idea to get onto social media and let everyone know you want to purchase. Thanks for the tip!

Post: What kind of property should I be looking for?

Jayden B.Posted
  • Bluffdale, UT
  • Posts 10
  • Votes 3
Originally posted by @Cherie Orellana:

I would look for a single family with a mother in law / second kitchen and rent the basement if you intend to househack. You could also watch for homes you could add a second kitchen that already have a second entrance. I would keep your options open and also look at multi family.  Get set up on hotsheets and study them daily. You will get a good idea of neighborhoods and market values. Then when you see a good deal you will know it.  My nephew is 18 and just bought a home in west valley and added a kitchen in basement. He rents it for $1200 plus utilities and lives on main level for about $600 total and owns the home. House hacking is an amazing way to start. 

 Any links for some hotsheets?

Post: What kind of property should I be looking for?

Jayden B.Posted
  • Bluffdale, UT
  • Posts 10
  • Votes 3

Hi my names Jayden B. Im turning 20 next month and I live in Bluffdale, Utah about 20 mins south of salt lake. My goal for the year has been to purchase my first rental, I've started researching properties available around my vicinity and I just can't seem to find something for a reasonable purchase price. Ive been reading Brandon turners books on rental property investing and no money (low money) down to help with what to look for. Id like some advice on what kind of properties I should be looking for and where I should be looking. I know that where I live, over the past few years has blown up in more and more properties being built and average home price and it seems to be really difficult for a new investor to get into the game around here.