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All Forum Posts by: Jay Compton

Jay Compton has started 0 posts and replied 19 times.

Post: Investor in Birmingham area, looking to partner with other like-minded investors

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Hey Shane,

Congratulations on selling your business. I'm guessing fixing old houses won't be as much fun as robots, but...there's just nothing like taking an old dog of a house and turning it into something all the neighbors are proud to see everyday. It's a cool experience.

I'm local to you here in the Bham market, too. Let's talk RE sometime.


Jay

Post: Project Tracking & Accounting Software

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You can talk to any restoration company in the US, and we've all been using Xactimate to estimate jobs for at least the past 25 years that I know of. The insurance companies force us to use it, so we pretty much have no choice in the matter. We service around 200 claims a month, and every one of them gets written in Xactimate. Once the estimate is approved and we start swinging hammers, the jobs are tracked via three other software platforms. I won't bore you with the details of the restoration business, but I just wanted to jump in here and tell you that Xactimate is probably not what you're looking for.

I do flips and rentals on the side, and I'm looking for a simple software to track those too. Right now I'm using Avail and Stessa. Is there anything out there that combines the benefits of those two?

Post: Insurance for Fire accident - rebuild

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I'll try to answer your questions wearing two hats here...(1) After 25 years in the restoration industry, I sort of understand the insurance side of it, and (2) I'm also an investor so I know where you're coming from.

Public adjusters are not legal in my state (Alabama), so they're really not a factor for us. Knowing what I know about the industry though, I personally would not hire one. It makes more sense to hire the GC that's rebuilding both the units next to you. He'll get the benefit of having three jobs in one place, and I'm guessing, combined, this would be a decent sized job for his company. That means there will be a lot of employees dedicated to making sure this runs smoothly. Can this GC also do any water mitigation that might be required, or will they tear this down to the slab and start over from ground-up? Right now, you really don't know until you hear back from the IA.

Your independent adjuster is currently writing an Xactimate estimate based on the repairs for your unit alone. The other two units have already filed with their own insurance carriers, so as of today, the liability part of this is not a factor. We will come back to it though.

If you choose to hire a contractor quickly, he should scope the loss and write a competing Xactimate estimate that can be presented to your adjuster. More than likely his estimate will be a LOT higher than the IA's estimate (at least it is when we write one), but that's OK...your contractor and the adjuster will negotiate back and forth until they come to an agreement. Just be sure to have an agreement IN WRITING with your contractor UPFRONT that states you won't be held responsible for anything more than your deductible, unless it's approved in writing by both parties (email is fine). Hopefully you've got good "code-upgrade" coverage in your policy, as this will become a factor if it's an older unit.

But before you sign with the contractor, verify with your neighbors that they actually have hired him to rebuild their units...Contractors will lie. Also, you'll want to vet the contractor every which way you can think of...Google reviews, BBB reviews, GlassDoor, Facebook could be a big help here, also look up any lawsuits they've been a part of in their county. Ask your adjuster if he's ever had any dealings with them. Most carriers won't let their adjusters say anything good or bad about a contractor, but this guy is an Independent...Tell him it's completely "off the record," and he may be a little more open about it. You can ask the contractor for references, but that's usually a waste of time. They're just going to send you to their happy homeowners. You'll never talk to someone that dislikes them...and if you've been a contractor for any length of time, there's somebody out there that dislikes you.

You mentioned liability because the fire started in your unit...what was the cause of origin? If the CO was cooking related or anything similar that's directly attributable to your tenant...that's when their liability kicks in. Hopefully your tenant has renters insurance. If so, the liability portion of their policy will kick in first, then yours will follow.

On a subrogation claim like this one seems to be, that's usually played out behind the scenes between the three carriers involved...and potentially four carriers if there's a renters policy. But either way, I wouldn't worry with that part yet. There's nothing you can do to change anything now. Everything is determined by what policies were in place the day the fire occurred. This sounds like it could reach several hundred thousand at least, so the other carrier's subrogation departments will dig deep on this one. If this was an electrical fire, there will be a lot of questions about what you replaced and when. Who did the work, what materials were used, etc...They're trying to find an angle they can subrogate to. Maybe it's an electrician that you hired six months ago that did something wrong, or maybe he used a certain model of a breaker that's known to fail....If there's an angle the carrier can use to collect their money back from someone else, they will usually go after it.

Pay attention and take lots of notes about everything going on. If you stay in the landlord business long enough, it will probably happen again at some point. Also....take LOTS of pictures along the way. You'll never know when one picture can save you $25k....it happens to us all the time. Good pictures can save your butt.

Good luck and I hope this goes smoothly for you. I'll try to keep an eye on this thread going forward too.

Post: Alabama tax lien over the counter

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@Donald Lowe I'm pretty sure the clock started ticking from the day you purchased it at auction. The previous auction was considered a "no-sale" event, so (in my opinion) it wouldn't satisfy the law.

Good luck.... Hopefully no one redeems it on you.

Post: Subdivision Development Costs

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It's been about 9 months since your last post. I'm curious what happened with this project.

JC

Post: Sheriff's Sale vs. Foreclosure Sale

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Nevermind...I just realized your post was from 10 months ago.

Too late...

Post: Sheriff's Sale vs. Foreclosure Sale

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What county is it in? If you're willing to send me an address, I'll look into it if I can...I pay for access to several counties info online.

I will tell you the IRS will take precedence over all other liens, and it can attach to you (or your company) if you mistakenly buy it. Then you'll be forced to pay them off..so be careful messing with the feds. That doesn't mean it might not still be worth more than the collective total of paying all these liens, but you just want to know that going into it.

JC

Post: First Time Alabama Investor - neighborhood advice please!

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I know it can be difficult to research a market from a distance, but Hueytown is not one hour from Birmingham...it will typically take 15-20 minutes to get from downtown Hueytown to downtown Birmingham, and that's pretty much the normal for those of us that live and work around Birmingham and drive everyday to and from work...no matter which side of town you live on, we're all roughly within 30 minutes or less from being downtown, including Hueytown. This makes Hueytown a suburb of Birmingham...not Bessemer. Don't worry so much about Bessemer. It has it's problems, but they typically don't drift over into Hueytown. We have MUCH bigger problems with the eastern parts of town now than we do the western areas...Centerpoint mainly.

I've owned several homes over the years in Hueytown. I actually just tried to buy another one a few weeks ago on the courthouse steps (but these big rental companies have deeper pockets than I do). We've got a rental right next door in Pleasant Grove for $1,100/mo and it is NICE. We paid $27k for it 4 years ago and spent a little over $75k gutting and renovating it. I say all that to make a point...yours should be top of the market perfect to command $1295. They may have told you it's been rented for that number for awhile, but either ask to speak directly with the tenant, or ask to see corresponding deposits into an account where the tenant has actually paid that amount for the past six months. If they let you speak directly with the tenant (which they probably won't), have a defined list of questions that you want honest answers to ready for them. Offer to send the tenant a $100 Amazon card for their time...it might just save you $40k in the long run.

Now, on to the price of the house. They probably realistically did pay $100k for the house. I just watched that one on the courthouse steps sell for $105k a few weeks ago ($20k more than my last bid), so that seems to be the going rate out there now to buy a light renovation job, then spend $20k - $25k in repairs.

I personally think you can find a better deal than that. Spending $165k is towards the top end of Hueytown now, although it may not be 2 years from now...who knows. But $165k today can take you to a better side of town with better schools, and better tenants. Think Leeds, Moody, Odenville, McCalla, Warrior, Jasper, Pell City, Calera, etc...It sounds like you live out of state anyway, so you probably wouldn't care if it's a few more miles in the country away from downtown. We're not a big public transportation hub down here in the south, so everyone has cars and we drive everywhere...living a few more miles away from town, is just not as big of deal as it is in other parts of the country.

With all that being said though, if you can buy it for $130k....it's probably worth it.

Good Luck,

Jay

Post: STAY AWAY FROM NREIG (National Real Estate Insurance Group)

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@Andrew DeWeerd I've never asked NREIG if they would cover a property owned in my personal name. Since around 1993 or so, I've always bought investment properties inside an LLC, for the asset protection they're "supposed" to provide. I know anybody can sue anybody for anything nowadays, but it makes me feel a little better to separate business from personal.

Since our policies with NREIG kind of piggyback off their master policy, there's probably some clause in the master that will only allow them to add investment properties held in company names....just guessing here, but it makes sense.

BTW, the comment this original thread started from, is much easier today. I can now log into my NREIG portal online and print an invoice or coverage statement from any property I have with them.

Jay

Post: (Update) Another Tenant died...and then two more!

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@Scott Mac I have a lot of years in the real estate investing world, but my day job is restoration...So my advice would be to have an upfront conversation with one of your local restoration companies (not the national green truck guys) ahead of time. I know without insurance involved, most landlords think our services can be expensive, but someday you'll run across something that you can't or won't want to handle....six week old decomp cleanup, meth lab cleanup, excessive mold, sewage, hoarder contents, suicide by shotgun (gross and dangerous) etc.

If you take one of the owners or senior management to lunch upfront, before something happens and ask them to give you a price plan in writing...I know I would do that. We've never actually had a landlord do this with us, but just thinking through the context of this thread, it sounds like a good idea. What we don't like is to get that call at 11pm with seven feet deep of sewage in a basement, and then ask us to cut our prices because we're too high. Haha... Cool, you clean it up, I'm going back to bed.

It's just like anything, good communication and planning upfront before something happens will make it seem easy.

Here's my first intro to a death in a unit...

When I first got into multi-family in about 1993 (I was all of 19 at the time), my first two six-plexes were next door to each other, and I had a great family in one unit. Everybody knew the family and they got along with everyone. One day he and his wife got into it, and she picked up a steak knife and pointed it at him. He, being the man of the house, wasn't going to be disrespected, so he grabbed a little pocket .25 (thinking it was not loaded, cause the wife told me it was never loaded) and started beating it on his chest telling her... You are not gonna disrespect me in my own...BOOM. Right in front of mom and daughter. Very sad situation. As a small landlord, I even went to the funeral.

That's the first of several throughout my landlording days. That one wasn't near as damaging as the man that set himself on fire inside a unit a few years later, or the guy that blew up his unit and three more in a gas explosion before that (crazy guy actually lived), but I still remember how much each one cost me...I wish I would've had a plan before they all happened.

Good luck...