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All Forum Posts by: Jason Halliburton

Jason Halliburton has started 1 posts and replied 6 times.

Quote from @Jay Hurst:
Quote from @Jason Halliburton:
Quote from @Jay Hurst:
Quote from @Jason Halliburton:

With Freddie and now Fannie updating seasoning requirements to 12 months, are there any other options apart from a non-qm/dscr loan? Im a newbie and have been building the start of my business to purchase my first BRRR property for the past couple of months. Started looking at properties this week and ready to get a deal done. But with the season requirement news.

I feel like I've done so much leading up to this point and finally ready to take the next step but now stuck at this roadblock. I'd be going the route of a HML for purchase and rehab, which holding cost for that 12 month period just wouldn't make sense. Is anyone else running into this issue?

@Jason Halliburton  On short term deals the upfront cost and lack or pre-payment penalty are much more important then the interest rate. 

 @Jay Hurst so if I'm looking to refi out of my HML into a 30yr, are you suggesting to use a 30yr dscr non-qm and focus on the prepayment penalties and upfront costs? Then refi later with conventional after seasoning?

 I think where I’m getting hung up with the high interest rate really affects cashflow. Appreciate your feedback

 @Jason Halliburton   There is not a one size fit all solution.   That is why it is important to work with a lender who understands your goals, and understands the rehab portion AND the long term.  A good % of hard money lenders do not understand the long term options and a % of conventional focused loan officers do not understand the hard money portion so getting out with the best possible solution is tough because few people understand both worlds.  Find a LO that does and lay out the plan before ever starting a transaction.  

And keep in mind these new Fannie/Freddie seasoning requirements ONLY apply to cash out loans. In other words, you can still use the improved value to refi what is owed with no cash back. So, what we do on we make a HML is once we get the take out appraisal to establish the value we will modify our existing HML to raise the loan amount to the max loan to value for the take out product, then proceed with the refi. This makes the take loan a rate/term refi NOT a cash out so we can use the new value. The result is you get the funds you wanted without having to wait the now 12 months, and still refi into a conventional loan.

Or, if you did not do a HML loan with us we do a double close essentially. We do a cash out loan for you on a bridge loan with no pre-payment penalty pulling out the cash, them immediately refi that new loan amount as a rate/term. So, again, it just takes a good LO, and a plan.
 
 

 @Jay Hurst wow this is awesome info. Would love to chat further with you on this. I’m still new here , so not sure if there’s a way to DM to connect. 

Quote from @Eliott Elias:

You should consider alternative financing options such as a , a bridge loan, or a private money loan. These types of loans typically have higher interest rates and fees, but they can offer more flexible terms and faster approval times. You can also consider partnering with a seasoned investor who has the necessary funds and meets the requirements to acquire the property.


@Eliott Elias  I already have funding set up for purchasing and rehab. This is in regard to the back end cash out refi. 

Quote from @Luis Somoza:
Quote from @Jason Halliburton:

With Freddie and now Fannie updating seasoning requirements to 12 months, are there any other options apart from a non-qm/dscr loan? Im a newbie and have been building the start of my business to purchase my first BRRR property for the past couple of months. Started looking at properties this week and ready to get a deal done. But with the season requirement news.

I feel like I've done so much leading up to this point and finally ready to take the next step but now stuck at this roadblock. I'd be going the route of a HML for purchase and rehab, which holding cost for that 12 month period just wouldn't make sense. Is anyone else running into this issue?

 I assume the property you are referring to take the cash out on is an investment property, and not your primary residence, correct? 

Edit: Freddie Mac's change in guidelines is effective March 7, 2023 https://guide.freddiemac.com/a... so that means the refi would have to close and fund before then.

 @Luis Somoza yes this is in regards to cashing out investment property to pay back HML for purchase and rehab.

Quote from @Jay Hurst:
Quote from @Jason Halliburton:

With Freddie and now Fannie updating seasoning requirements to 12 months, are there any other options apart from a non-qm/dscr loan? Im a newbie and have been building the start of my business to purchase my first BRRR property for the past couple of months. Started looking at properties this week and ready to get a deal done. But with the season requirement news.

I feel like I've done so much leading up to this point and finally ready to take the next step but now stuck at this roadblock. I'd be going the route of a HML for purchase and rehab, which holding cost for that 12 month period just wouldn't make sense. Is anyone else running into this issue?

@Jason Halliburton  On short term deals the upfront cost and lack or pre-payment penalty are much more important then the interest rate. 

 @Jay Hurst so if I'm looking to refi out of my HML into a 30yr, are you suggesting to use a 30yr dscr non-qm and focus on the prepayment penalties and upfront costs? Then refi later with conventional after seasoning?

 I think where I’m getting hung up with the high interest rate really affects cashflow. Appreciate your feedback

Quote from @Mike Singer:

If it's not owner occupied that will be your only option. There's alot of good NonQM loans out there. You can look at it as a short term loan until you qualify for Fannie/Freddie products. 

Yeah that’s a good point. With the rates I’ve been made aware from the multiple lenders they are upwards of 8%. But I guess if you look at it as a short term to get me through the seasoning then refinance to conventional for that lower rate. 

With Freddie and now Fannie updating seasoning requirements to 12 months, are there any other options apart from a non-qm/dscr loan? Im a newbie and have been building the start of my business to purchase my first BRRR property for the past couple of months. Started looking at properties this week and ready to get a deal done. But with the season requirement news.

I feel like I've done so much leading up to this point and finally ready to take the next step but now stuck at this roadblock. I'd be going the route of a HML for purchase and rehab, which holding cost for that 12 month period just wouldn't make sense. Is anyone else running into this issue?