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All Forum Posts by: Jason G.

Jason G. has started 1 posts and replied 428 times.

Post: Brooklyn, NY – am I crazy to start here?

Jason G.
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Originally posted by @Dan Ashley:

Thanks all for the great replies,
To try to sum up what everybody has said so far:

• Seems like the majority here recommend looking outside my general area since the prices are so high and I could get a better deal. My mind is blown that some of you, such as @Jason G. are able to purchase investment properties out-of-state that you've never seen in person. Very impressive. Is that common?

• Others are recommending finding a partner, potentially somebody to help purchase a bigger multi-unit building. I still don't fully understand how this process works if it's not somebody you personally know well (friend, family, significant other). Anybody want to chime in?

• Some are saying a condo isn't a bad purchase as well - it would require more patience but through appreciation I could net some profit or at the very least gain equity instead of paying rent. Still in my mind it seems like less of an investment and more of a lateral move.

• Then there's a few mentioning loan assistance programs such as FHA, NACA, etc. I assumed because of my salary / savings I wouldn't be eligible but haven't dug into what qualifications are. I'll have to do my dd on this one, but getting assistance sounds great if there's no catch.

Thanks everybody

Out of state investing is very common, though I have no idea how common it is to not have actually visited any of the properties.  I figured at some point I would visit them, but I just never have.

With respect to partnering, my wife is my partner. Our combined income vs just one of our incomes definitely made it much easier to expand our portfolio.  You could network through sites like bigger pockets or go to local real estate investor group meetings to make connections with people who could potentially be viable partners.  

I personally wouldn't purchase a condo as an investment and I haven't used an FHA or NACA loan so I cannot comment on them and will defer to others that have experience with those areas.

Post: Brooklyn, NY – am I crazy to start here?

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Originally posted by @Dan Ashley:

@Jason G. Great points, and appreciate the local perspective – thank you. Amassing a lot of debt and being only able to make lateral moves if I sell is certainly a huge concern of mine. 

Breaking even definitely isn't a good investment strategy, if you could even consider it one.

What this post really comes down to, is I want to purchase a home in NY but also want to have enough money to grow my investments for my future. Was curious if having a multi-family I could live in and house-hack as a starting point is actually a smart idea or just one that's going to set me back financially? Out of state seems harder to break into simply because I'm not there - maybe Hoboken /Jersey city or further like @Eric Hajdu mentioned are better places to start.

Out of state is not difficult to get into.  There are turnkey companies or platforms like Roofstock that assist investors in doing so or you can contact property management companies or look for investor friendly real estate agents in that market to assist you.  I have never been to any of the properties I own in Atlanta and closed on all of them from my dining room table in Long Island. I have a property management company manage all of them. The same will be the case when I close on the Ohio property.  House hacking a multi-family is a very viable idea, but in the end is all about the numbers and if they work.  That is why I keep going back to whether or not you analyzed the numbers.  And you have to remember too, NYC is not the norm in the country when you are reading through Bigger Pockets.  You want a duplex in a lot of places and you are looking at between 150-400k.  You want a multi family in Brooklyn and you see the numbers, you would be lucky if you could get a closet for those prices.  It is like you might as well be on a different planet.  

Post: Brooklyn, NY – am I crazy to start here?

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Originally posted by @Dan Ashley:

Thanks everybody,

@Ian Plocky great advice. Having a larger building does seem like a better investment option if paired with partners. 
@Jason G. what would you consider a viable investment strategy? 

I feel like NY has the appreciation factor locked down. Though I know it's possible for rent and prices to go down, I'm willing to bet this city is here to stay. I'd be happy breaking even just to get the equity on a building, especially since I'm currently renting - aka giving my landlord wads of cash every month to buy new sports cars. Please chime in if you think there's another way to look at it.

Thanks!

I'm not really sure what you are trying to say. I wouldn't buy an investment property that I was just breaking even on. Yes, in recent memory, aside from the sub prime mortgage crises which caused prices to drop, over time housing prices in New York City has increased substantially. But I'm not sure what that has to do with carrying a large mortgage where you are just breaking even and speculating that property will continue to appreciate. Even if it does appreciate, the only way you realize those gains is if you sell. Yes as you pay down the mortgage you will gain equity that way, but the interest is front loaded so it takes time to build that equity from principal paydown. When you've looked at potential properties, how are you computing the break even point. Are you factoring in regular maintenance, CapEx, turnover costs, or paying the PITI when you have vacancies or a tenant isn't paying? And even if you are, if you are just breaking even, how are you planning on expand the portfolio beyond that first property? I live in Long Island, NY. I chose to invest out of state because of the cost of real estate in NYC/Long Island. I'm not saying you can't be successful in Brooklyn or any other borough. I have ownership interest in two properties on Staten Island, but they were purchased at a point in time where the numbers worked. Just make sure you have a real investment plan laid out because it doesn't benefit you to pull the trigger just to end up losing money every month or losing the property because the numbers don't work.

Post: Better Mortgage Lending/Realtor

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Originally posted by @Andrew Helenbrook:

Has anyone had experience with Better Mortgage for lending and or using their realtors? I was preapproved by answering just a few questions on their website and with a soft credit pull (which has me a little sketched out).Talked with a realtor and she seemed very knowledgeable on the Pittsburgh market. Rates seem competitive (they also will price match any competitor). Furthermore, they are offering 2% back on purchase price at closing. The realtor said this was in large to attract new investors as they are a younger company. Any thoughts?

I've used them on three different properties for mortgages and have been happy with them.  

Post: Use cash or heloc first?

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Originally posted by @Pete B.:

We were planning on buying another house to move into and rent out our current home. Our home has about 200k of equity and will cash flow around $1100 a month covering most of the mortgage on the new house. We want to live in the new house for a year, then move and rent that one out.

We have enough cash for down payment and a little left over to cover a couple months living expenses. But we’re thinking to do some updating on our house so it’s bulletproof for another 10 years.

We could get an over 100k heloc at 1.9% for the first year. So we’re debating on taking advantage of the heloc while we can still get one, and since interest rates look uncertain for the future. Any thoughts on whether to use the cash first, or heloc? Thanks

Just a little confused on what your options are. You are thinking of taking out a HELOC and using the HELOC on what exactly? Is the question to use a HELOC to update the house or the cash you saved up for a down payment on a new house? If that is the case then if it was me, a HELOC on the house to do the updates and save the cash for the down payment. Though definitely ask yourself if you plan on renting it out are updates necessary?

Post: Brooklyn, NY – am I crazy to start here?

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Originally posted by @Dan Ashley:

Hey all,

First time home buyer and my dream is to purchase a multi-family, reno and house hack in North Brooklyn. I want to live in one unit and rent out the other unit to help pay off the mortgage, then buy another spot when I have enough saved up as a vacation home.

I'm pretty set on where I live, been here 12 years and tired of paying rent.. but purchasing even a condo is 600k+ and multi-family in north brooklyn is easily 1mil. I have great credit, killer salary, and a bunch saved up but still can't afford a 20% down payment on anything over 600k. Buying a condo seems like a huge waste, whereas multi-family gives some cash flow to neutralize my monthly payments. Mostly worried that even if I find a place and the money, that I'll be making a big financial mistake and have little left to cover unexpected costs. Don't want to burn my money on the first go. 

Anybody have any advice? Am I totally priced out?

Thanks,
Dan

That will be a big mortgage. If you had the down payment, have you done the math for the expected rent, PITI and reserves to see if it would even be a viable investment strategy?

Post: Rental property financing

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Originally posted by @Ivan Aldana:

How do you guys fund your deals if you have no money to start with? Also besides doing a partnership?

I have always saved the money and done a 20-25% down payment on a conventional 30 year mortgage. I don't recommend trying to use a credit card for a down payment. Between the interest rate and it impacting your DTI it just is asking for trouble. Seller financing deals will likely require a down payment and a higher interest rate than a conventional mortgage. I don't know your circumstances, but real estate investing is not a get rich quick investment strategy. For most potential investors it is better to get your ducks in a row with education, income, and savings and then invest.

Post: How many rental properties do you own?

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Originally posted by @Jeff Kissling:

How many rental properties do you own?

5 and closing on a 6th later this month.  

Post: Experience or thoughts on Homeroom?

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I had just seen an ad for them pop up on Instagram. It sounds like a very interesting way of investing and I would love to see someone that has used them do a detailed post on their entire experience with them, especially someone that has been using them for a long period of time. My biggest concern looking at their website is that their example results on their website show properties from Kansas City, Forth Worth, and Austin with purchase prices of 236k-411k. I currently have five properties in the Atlanta metro area and I'm picking up one in Cleveland. The reason I shifted out of Atlanta to begin with was because the properties are now moving above 200k and the numbers are beginning not to work. I couldn't imagine spending 411k on a SFH at this point unless I was living in it. I want properties to be worth that and higher years after buying them under 200k, not as an initial starting point.

Post: Multifamily Mindset $40k ????

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Originally posted by @Christopher Warren:

Attending the 3 day Multifamily Mindset seminar. The coaches and speaker are very knowledgeable but, then you get hit up for $40,000.00 for the mentorship program. Is this needed or even worth to get my foot in the door with landing Multifamily deals? 

If I was in your shoes I personally would pass. I dont know anything about the program, have never heard of it, but I'm closing on my second Multifamily property in a couple of weeks and have never paid for any seminars or programs. I would rather use that money towards the downpayment on your first property.