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All Forum Posts by: Account Closed

Account Closed has started 2 posts and replied 6 times.

That's super helpful. Thank you!

Hey BP -

In the coming months I'd like to refinance a 5-unit multi I've been rehabbing. I'm trying to get a rough idea of what my ARV will be. I have a good idea what the cap rate for this area will be, and I know what I'll get for rent, but I'm not sure what a commercial appraiser generally considers when adding up the operating expenses. Will they take my verified inputs (taxes/insurance/utilities/repairs/maintenance/PM/vacancy/misc) at face value? Do they research these numbers independantly? Or do they use something similar to the 50% rule? As you know, minor variations to the operating expenses can change the value of the property dramatically.

Thanks!

-Jared

Post: Crippling analysis paralysis. Need some input:

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@Ian Boyd Yes, the properties I've been analyzing are 3/2's, I haven't really seen any 4 bed's worth pursuing. Would love to visit more about it with you. My wife is due any day now, so I'll probably have to reach out in a month or so. 

-Jared

Post: Crippling analysis paralysis. Need some input:

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@Nathan G. Cody was one of the towns I've looked at. Vicinity to YNP and Kanye West were the reasons I keyed in on it. Any thoughts on Sheridan, WY? I know Weatherby, INC recently moved their operation from California there. 

Post: Crippling analysis paralysis. Need some input:

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@Joseph Cacciapaglia Thanks for your input. That's exactly what I've felt, and probably the best route for my circumstance. Better neighborhoods with newer properties that require less maintenance, still cash flow (although small), and great appreciation. 

Our property tax rate is ~0.8% compared to the ~2% Texas has, so that helps with cash flow. My vacancy/R&M/CapEx rates should also probably be calculated a little higher - i'm currently calculating all of them at 5% each b/c I would buy newer properties and Bozeman vacancy is extremely low.

Post: Crippling analysis paralysis. Need some input:

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I'm looking to purchase my first investment property; however, I'm having trouble deciding where to invest – analysis paralysis is the real deal. One area that I'm looking at is Bozeman, MT (where I live), which is the fastest growing micropolitan city in the US for the last three years and will soon cross over into metropolitan status soon. Home values are pretty high, and the best CoC figure I've been able to find is about 2-3%. But appreciation rates have been incredible over the last decade (conservatively 6-10% depending on the year), and I see no signs of it slowing down, even in a pandemic. I would be able to manage the property myself here but wouldn't be making a lot of cash flow.

The other areas I'm looking at are in Wyoming. Smaller towns (15,000-20,000) with much lower population growth, but also feel like Bozeman before Bozeman was discovered by the rest of the country (Very speculative – I know). Home values are much lower than Bozeman, so I'm able to find CoC returns in the neighborhood of 8-9%. Price-to-rent ratios are not significantly better than Bozeman, but in WY, property taxes are very low allowing for a decent CoC return.

Here’s where I’m at:

Bozeman purchase price: $325,000-$350,000

Rent: $1800-$2000/month

Appreciation: High

Self-managed

Wyoming purchase price: $190,000-$225,000

Rent: $1300-$1500

Appreciation: Medium-Low – in line with inflation to slightly better

Property manager needed, but property taxes are very low

So – looking for input to hopefully shake off this crippling analysis paralysis. We are in a financial position where we can take on some risk, but everything I read says ‘don’t invest for appreciation, consider it the cherry on top’. It just seems to me that of the four wealth creators of real estate, appreciation is where real wealth is created, and not the $200/month in cash flow.