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All Forum Posts by: Jared Saunders

Jared Saunders has started 6 posts and replied 21 times.

Post: 38 Unit Multi-Family Portfolio for sale!

Jared SaundersPosted
  • Investor
  • Marion, IN
  • Posts 21
  • Votes 65

Located in Grant County Indiana 

12 separate buildings. Over 215k Capital has already been invested into CapEx of these buildings. A total of 15 of the 38 being cosmetically updated as well as other common CapEX items like new roofs, windows, HVAC, Siding, etc. There are currently another 12 units that are under rented which would be $2,000 in added revenue monthly bringing the total income to roughly 24k per month.

This Portfolio consist of 6 Tri-Plex, 3 Five-Plex, 2 Duplex, and one single family house. 

37 of the 38 units are currently rented with the 38th being under renovation to the studs. The NOI and financial information is based on only the units that are currently and have been rented.

We are selling at a 10.6% cap rate asking price of $1,250,000 with a yearly NOI currently of $130,000

Contact Jared Saunders at (847)626-5783

Originally posted by @Scott Harper:

Jared, I did have a question too. Is your partner a licensed gc or do you have to have a licenced gc for the bank to loan to your LLC? Basically, what would be your advice? Find a gc who would be the gc for the Llc and share in profits?

 Scott , we actually started our own gc business and secured the proper licensing so we could invoice the bank directly.  

I've recently felt very compelled to start contributing to BP more, so here is my follow up from my last post I put out 10 months ago titled "Quit my job at 21 years old to become a real estate investor". 

I would like to start out by saying how grateful and appreciative I am that a community like BP exists for all types of RE entrepreneurs! Frankly without BP I wouldn't be where I am today and surely not in such a short time frame. To @Brandon Turner and @Joshua Dorkin I thank you and will forever spread the word of BP to all investors large and small!

After acquiring , renovating , and stabilizing the 11 unit deal I last wrote about my company has seen TREMENDOUS growth in a very short time. Now holding 44 rental units with a value currently estimated at $1.5M and monthly cash flow exceeding $14k. Also with an average cash on cash ROI of 87% !!! This has all came about with 1 part strategy/hard work, 1 part pure luck , 1 part blessings from a higher power.

I was fortunate enough to be connected with the right people through word of mouth referrals that have directly been related to a deal or indirectly allowed me to meet someone else to acquire a deal. Thinking back on it now, I see it in my mind as a chain of events meeting one person through another and there on leading to deals. Surprisingly enough my first RE related relationship was with a self managing realtor who helped me find my first deal, and had referred me to a local account purely for tax advice. Fast forward 10 months , the accountant has actually gotten me more deals than my realtor , a total of 17 units to be exact! (Partially due to our focus being more on off market leads apposed to MLS leads) That just goes to show you the power of telling everyone you meet your goals and ambitions!

The book "The ONE Thing" talks a lot about purpose before priority , priority leading to success. I believe that couldn't be more true across the board but specifically with word of mouth referrals. That by explaining to people your purpose , people genuinely want to help you out. Especially if your purpose has something to do with helping other people out, it just becomes a chain reaction of people helping people help people. In my case I believe my purpose to be #1 bring a luxury apartment quality of living to my community that no other landlord has even attempted in our area and that no tenant has ever gotten to experience locally! #2 is to MAKE OTHER PEOPLE MORE FINANCIALLY FREE , "other people" being our private money investors. Not only paying them above average returns (15% annually w/ 3 yr hold) but also teaching them about financial freedom looking to create more streams of income apposed to piles of money ("Rich Dad , Poor Dad") 

In terms of financing , I was blessed enough to connect with my older brothers high school friend whom I knew was an entrepreneur for quite some time. This individual owned a lawn care business and 4 single family rental homes prior to partnering with me. This individual decided to believe in me before almost anyone else and fund more than 70% of all the capital we've needed to raise thus far! He also has let me have almost 100% autonomy of strategy and decision making throughout everything. The very first BP podcast I ever stumbled across on youtube by searching "how to invest in real estate" was the podcast titled "Investing with no and low money down" during that podcast I realized the power of partnerships! Another reason that I believe my purpose to help other people become more financially free is my partners example. Before meeting me my partner owned 4 houses that he owned outright and had roughly $150,000 into these houses only cash flowing $2,000 monthly. His first deal with me he used $8,600 capital and his portion of the cash flow equated to $1,500 monthly! That sure helped put things into perspective for him ;) 

My partner has been able to connect me with countless different construction crew members , so many in fact we started our own General Contracting business! We now have 7 full time employees and currently have 3 active projects under renovation! We decided to do this based on a construction loan structure our bank allows us to use. Essentially the most flexible 203k loan I've ever heard of. What we do is order a subject 2 aka ARV appraisal and the bank finances 80% of that value plus allowing you to hold your 20% down payment in an escrow fund. Essentially financing almost 100% of the deal! Example: We purchased a 3 unit building for $38,000 that was in need of pretty significant work. We got a subject 2 appraisal for $60,000 , the bank had us put $14,000 down and we immediately had $20,000 in construction escrow account! With only having a loan balance of $44,000. Only stipulation , construction funds could only be disbursed to licensed, bonded , and insured general contractors. Thus jMax Construction Masters, LLC. was born! Just to clarify , our GC business only does work for our holding business (jMax Property Masters, LLC) Just like our property management business(jMax Acquisition Masters, LLC.) only does business with our holdings company

Even though he is mostly as silent partner , his existing reputation has earned me instant respect with a lot of high level people in the community. The funny part is my partner didn't even know my age until we had more than 20 units! He commented saying he would have never went into a business with a 21 yr old 50/50 partnership but he was impressed at how far ahead of the game I was compared to even the most successful investors locally. 

I could write all night long about what all has transpired thus far but I'll close with giving a few major tips for success. Invest the time listening to BP podcasts! 90% of what I've learned  has been just from the podcast with just a little back research done on strategies mentioned within them. Pair the information learned on podcasts with Ken McElroys ABC's to real estate investing specifically with the due diligence portion and you are bound for success! Lastly but not least, BP PRO MEMBERSHIP!!!!!!! The BP rental property calculator and Brandon's step by step webinar on how to analyze! This exact process has been used on ALL of our deals thus far! Our last deal, a 24 unit complex for $400,000 plus $100,000 construction loan from the bank. All from resources that a BP pro membership grants you!

I would like to finish by saying I know I am not the best at grammar and for that I apologize! I guess not finishing high school is now affecting my blogging skillz! LOL but oh well thanks to BP and some good people skills I believe I can still be successful! Welp , gotta get off here now to go put in some time on my 90 hour real estate online schooling in order to get my license! Hopefully you all will be seeing jMax Realty Masters, LLC. come alive soon enough!

Peace!!!

Jared Saunders 

@Lloyd Macaraeg

check out my most recent discussion opened if you have time!

Post: How I became a multi-family real estate investor in 6 months!

Jared SaundersPosted
  • Investor
  • Marion, IN
  • Posts 21
  • Votes 65

I wanted to provide some of what I hope to be very educational content! I also would like to receive any feedback from tenured investors on the process that I took , maybe where potential improvements can be made! 

My interest in real estate really did come out of no where! Although I have been involved in some flipping houses with my grandfather way back when I was 12 years old , I didn't truly understand the process. 

I had a fantastic "Area Manager" position in the wireless sales industry earning in the 5% of people my age!(20 yrs old at the time) (According to credit karma) I one day decided that I didn't want to spend almost my whole life clocking in and clocking out of a job 45 hours a week, no matter how good it was! This mentality finally made sense to me after reading Rich Dad Poor Dad.. 

My brother was also in a very similar scenario with an even better job in CO. After he read the book as well , we decided to go into business together! My brother only acts as a Silent Investor to put Credit/Income backing down for loans at the moment. 

From there on I really applied myself to learning everything that I possibly could about real estate, specifically with rentals. I was blessed to have a few clients that own a lot of real estate in Chicago, and the books are right folks , they love talking about it! I later found out that one of my clients whom provided me a ton of knowledge and processes , even reviewed a couple deals for me. Was/and is the biggest landlord in Chicago, having roughly 9,000 units. I knew I wanted to be in the renting sector of real estate because of the passive income potential. When I first started i thought that would mean Single Family homes rentals, which later turned into strictly multi-family . 

Another notation about the process would have to be the location I chose and why. For me it was simple because Marion was my hometown , and it was cheap real estate! I mean like Detroit type of cheap! (No offense to people in or from Detroit) To give a good example of the market, we purchased a 3 - Unit building on March 1st 2016 100% occupied for $36,000. Surprisingly its not slum houses you're buying for that price either, this building is in really fair condition with great fundamentals. 

I spent countless hours just binge listening to the BP podcasts , reading the blogs, reading other internet articles. Something that was my brothers idea is when reading books , take flash cards to take notes, then later study the flash cards. I really went ALL IN on the subject of real estate to one day work up the courage to leave my career in Chicago. 

I followed Ken Mcelroy's team process pretty much to a T from the book ABC's of Real Estate Investing (Rich dad adviser series) Asking a local friend whom's family had some rentals about a realtor. That Realtor happened to own her own brokerage and personally own 200 units in the town. She is not actively pursuing more deals either which brought my competition down significantly for being a smaller town. My realtor then connected me with real estate versed accountant, and lawyer! 

My banking relationship came from a distant family relation who informed me someone they know who specializes in investments. There couldn't be a better bank for what we are looking to do! They approve you up to a dollar amount instead of a number of loans that you can have under your name. In our case , after my brother and I filling out a personal financial statement and providing our business plan in person with the VP of this institution. They approved us for up to 2 million in loans as long as the deal made sense and we put 20% down. He also informed me of a refinance business model where we pay cash for the building and repairs then Refi to get our cash back. He then put us in touch with the local appraiser to make sure the refinance model would make sense. I would say one "Quick Tip" would be to tell everyone of these professionals your story with real estate. For me, I made it a point to always bring up the fact that we also view this as a great way to give back to the community. You'll be surprised on the good feedback you will receive just for being recognized as a landlord who is there to bring the image of the town up! At least for small- medium sized towns that is a good strategy I believe! 

Our first deal we purchased a 3 - unit building for $17,900, only one unit occupied. The other two units were in terrible condition inside. After putting about $22,000 into those two units in floor to ceiling renovation, the building appraised for $50,000 . Giving us an 80% refinance amount of $40,000. We ended up only having invested like $500 dollars after the refinance came back. Note also that this was cash from an investor within the family whom we are giving a 10% interest paid over 12 months. 

I knew this would be a safe investment because the only contingency I put on the original offer for the home was to be a Subject 2 appraisal done. This is where you provide of planned renovations list to the appraiser all the way down to specifics and the maximum potential cost for the renovation, the appraiser will tell you what your ARV is before you even do the work!

My biggest tribulation with the first deal was managing the construction project 200 miles away. Even me traveling back twice a month , it still took much longer and costed much more than I anticipated! My initial estimate was to be in a total of $33,000 , and be done in 2 months. We ended up in at $40,000 and were done in 5 months! I will honestly say that's the best $7,000 education i'll ever get though. What I learned through the process and just jumping into it after only 6 months of research and preparation is what propelled me to learn so fast, because I had to! 

I ended up testing above market rent prices in an effort to squeeze more profit but also an idea to weed out as many bad tenants as possible. I thought to myself that people whom are willing to pay a little extra for safe and quality housing will be more likely to treat the place better. I tried $100 more than my competitors were, and rented them out fast! I found that by me paying an extra $85 per month landlord cost and including Wi-Fi for the entire tri-plex , I could charge an extra $50 per unit. 

The final breakdown of my first deal____

Unit 1 - $650

Unit 2 - $450

Unit 3 - $550

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$1,650 gross income

-$275 P&I

-$50 Utiities 

-$40 Taxes

-$85 Internet 

-$85 Insurance

-$20 Lawn 

-$150 Property management 

-$75 CapEx (5%)

-$160 Repairs (10%)

-$75 Vacancy (5%) 

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$1,015 expenses 

A property cash flow of $635 conservatively and a 20% equity of $10,000!

I have the property management structured as a completely separate business and entity that gets 10% of total money collected. We use this 10% to pay for all advertising, paying a cell phone bill for our handyman/ slash property manager. 

Because we just did major renovations and a capital expenditure (New roof) I don't expect our repairs to be anywhere close to 10% , but you never know! 

I ended up resigning from my position in Chicago as of 04/07/2016 , and actually have my move scheduled back home for this Saturday! Still going to maintain a low stress / entry level sales position part time to cover personal expenses. I will be able to have a full time focus on building this business! My plan is to get up to 25 units by the end of this year, with this current 11 unit deal going through we only have 8 more to go! 

Wrapping this up now , I hope to have provided some good actual real world content that other people can use to achieve success! I am excited to receive feedback from all of you on this! 

Thanks! @Jean-francois Ndomb @Tristan Cortez

Thank you for the words of advice @Dmitriy Fomichenko. We include a $5,000 reserve fund for properties at or below $50,000, and also a $10,000 fund for properties in between $50,000 - $100,000. Would you recommend potentially having more? I'd like to get feedback. Thanks! 

Financing came mostly through a small bank that I have built a fantastic relationship with. Also with my brother/ silent business partner , who is able to also put his name and income down on the loan to back it. He holds a good enough income to where I didn't need to continue working up in Chicago to get financing. 

Most of our down payments is with using investor cash , giving them a 15% annual return with an option to pull cash out after a 12 month period. 

This most recent acquisition would put our bring our portfolio cash flow upwards of $3,000 per month with 17 units total. 

@Yoochul C.

I essentially left my upper management level career in Chicago to pursue real estate back in my hometown of Marion. I still transitioned over with a day job just doing a low stress , part time sales position to cover my personal expenses. 

My goal is to re-invest all business revenue back in to keep growing! I also am house hacking one of the properties in the newest purchase. I was able to save enough working the last 4 years to also put some of my own skin in the game on the 11 unit deal. 

That certainly is something I would love to share! @Jason Birney

To answer your question of starting an LLC , I say yes! The feedback I kept receiving from a lot of people was that I was getting ahead of myself, that I don't need to worry about it now with only 1 property, wait till i'm larger, etc. I chose to actually do it for 3 main reasons. Reason #1 is because I wanted to have a legitimate scalable operation from day 1. Reason #2 I knew people would take me more seriously if I had more of a corporate structure . (ie. investors, banks, realtors, potential sellers) Reason #3 is simply to protect your liabilities and limit risk. The business plan just went along with the LLC to me , I was lucky enough to have been in the upper management of a Nationwide cell phone carrier previous to this endeavor. Which taught me a lot about corporate structure!

There is a Podcast recently put up that reminded me of myself somewhat and really inspired me to contribute more to BP. That podcast is # 143 , the gentleman put it in a great way." Operate even just 1 property as if you own 100." Also what @Brandon Turner stated about giving off the perception that you are just another employee of the company helps a lot with tenants and contractors! 

I would like to write a discussion based around how I actually went about starting the business and going forward with the deal.

Let me know if any of you think it would be helpful for a more detailed version in an educational format!