@Shiloh Lundahl I could not have said it better myself. However you define the relationship or what name you give it, both parties should be up front about their role and make sure expectations are clear. I too am both a mentor and a coach. I know you understand this from our previous conversation. When a person chooses to be a mentor it is becasue we want to share our knowledge and we take great satisfaction in watching another person grow and succeed. I get just as excited watching a client succeed as I do my own. I often take on clients to teach them for a fee, but I have specific packages with set rates and those packages are defined to a specific time frame of support and sometimes a specific topic. However, Once we get going a client will display a certain need on a different topic that requires an adjustment in the curriculum to suit their needs, so I will often add time to allow for that new education they require while still teaching them the main topic that was agreed upon. I give specific assignments at each session and hold the client accountable for the completion of those assignments making sure they understand that the reason for the assignment is to help them learn and grow by applying the techniques or strategies being taught. Sometimes the assignment is simnply to teach them certain skills or to literally get them to step out of their commfort zone so they can make better progress. I have never cut a client off at the end of the allotted time stated in the package and I care very deeply about every person's success.
@Mitch Messer I appreciate your definition of coach vs mentor, but I think the lines are not so rigidly defined. For most of my coaching and mentoring career, (20 years), my clients/students were assigned to me or given to me by the education companies who did touring seminars around the country to bring in clients. I have always done my best to teach them whether or not they were really ready. I always did an assessment of their skills and started by teaching them what they needed to know be successful, even if it was just time management or building their confidence so they coult take the necessary action steps to move forward. I coach the whole person, not just the investor in them. I knew that each student assigned to me was counting on me to help them, and in their minds they had paid me for their education even though they had actually paid the seminar company who was compensating me at a much lesser rate than the students had paid to them. It was never about the money, but money has to be part of the equasion. I had to be compensated for my time and the student had to feel the value of the education. I communicate and explain things very clearly in simple layman's terms and make sure they understand what they are being taught before I move on the the next topic. I also hold them accountable for their own success becasue I know that I can't make a person get out of bed in the morning. It is up to them to put that education into practical use because I cannot do it for them. Nor have I ever partnered with a student on a deal, as much as they may have begged. I think that would be unethical for me to benefit from any deals that they did. I am and always have been a mentor, even if the relatioships have started as coaching. Still to this day I have former students contact me and I always help them even if their "coaching" ended 15 years ago. I love teaching and I am good at it, but it has never been just a job to me. Even when I am giving Free Sessions I deliver real content based on what they need becasue it isn't about me. I will always be grateful for those seminar companies even if I disagreed with their methods because I have met and stayed connected to so many wonderful people all over the country. I have my finger on the pulse of the real estate markets in every state becasue I work with people from every state. One of the seminar companies had me on their sales floor for a while back in 2004 and quickly pulled me out of sales and back into mentoring/coaching becasue I was still teaching on sales calls. I can't help it. LOL!