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All Forum Posts by: Janis A.

Janis A. has started 12 posts and replied 25 times.

Post: Second Investment Property

Janis A.Posted
  • Medford, OR
  • Posts 25
  • Votes 8

Investment Info:

Small multi-family (2-4 units) buy & hold investment.

Purchase price: $228,000
Cash invested: $9,000

Duplex of 2 units. 3 bdrms, 1 bath each unit. Private fenced in back yards, pets allowed, AC wall unit.

What made you interested in investing in this type of deal?

I began an interest in real estate investing a few years before this purchase. I spent about 8 months looking at single family homes and multi family homes that would meet the numbers to make a profit and charge reasonable rent that I could afford to live in for the first year.

How did you find this deal and how did you negotiate it?

Real estate agent. There was some negotiating because they had to do things like put in working heaters and the roof needed to be replaced.

How did you finance this deal?

FHA loan.

How did you add value to the deal?

Installed a new roof, hired an exterminator, beginning to do repairs and upkeep like replacing fence and AC units.

What was the outcome?

One side has an inherited tenant who now pays the rental price I had in mind and I live in the other unit currently.

Lessons learned? Challenges?

I learned that you inherit leases with the house. I assumed that they would be moot or expired or something once a house was sold...not so. Therefore the tenant paid 1999 year rent rather than 2018 rent for 7 months--so strapped for cash a little those months! Then I upped the rental price to account for the current house price (2.25x what the last owner paid), along with 5% each for vacancy, repair, and maintenance, property management fees, and profit.

Did you work with any real estate professionals (agents, lenders, etc.) that you'd recommend to others?

Ford Real Estate in Medford, with Mike Hilare. Mike was great, the company was great. They were recommended to me by Kelsey Plummer who is a real estate investor in Medford and runs the real estate meet up group.

Post: First Investment Property

Janis A.Posted
  • Medford, OR
  • Posts 25
  • Votes 8

Investment Info:

Single-family residence buy & hold investment.

Purchase price: $150,000

SFH 3 bdrm 2 bath, pets allowed, private fenced in yard, washer/dryer/refrigerator/AC wall unit provided

What made you interested in investing in this type of deal?

This was a case where I lived in this home prior to even being interested in real estate investing. I bought it in 2014--a good time to buy as the housing market hadn't fully recovered yet. Soon after I became interested in real estate investing and once I bought my next place, put this up for rent.

How did you find this deal and how did you negotiate it?

Used a real estate agent, offered $20k below asking, negotiated up just a little.

How did you finance this deal?

The first mortgage was a conventional loan. I then did a cash out refinance a few years later with a slightly lower interest rate.

How did you add value to the deal?

None was needed. Practically new home. Just maintenance and upkeep.

What was the outcome?

It's currently rented and generating income. I used a property manager to make my life easy and I save 5% each for repairs, maintenance, and vacancy.

Lessons learned? Challenges?

This house has been a piece a of cake. It was my second property I learned some lessons.

Did you work with any real estate professionals (agents, lenders, etc.) that you'd recommend to others?

Real estate agent.

Post: Oregon's New Rent Control

Janis A.Posted
  • Medford, OR
  • Posts 25
  • Votes 8

Oregon's New Rent Control Law signed today by Oregon Governor.  

I wanted to see thoughts and comments by fellow real estate investors.  I'm an Oregon investor (though a newbie with 2 properties: 1 single family home and 1 duplex) and wondered how this will impact landlords/investors in Oregon.  It looks like this will impact what kind of properties I can afford to buy and that inheriting tenants will cost quite bit if their rent isn't at current market rates.  

From the news:

Eviction rules overhauled

Landlords will be limited to when they can issue eviction notices after the first year of tenancy.

The legislation largely does away with no-cause evictions, except during the first year of tenancy. In that first year, landlords have to give 30 days' written notice for eviction.

After the first year, landlords can end month-to-month rental agreements with 90 days' notice for a "qualifying landlord reason," which includes:

  • Planning to demolish the unit or convert it to non-residential use in "a reasonable time." (SB 608 doesn't define how long is "reasonable.")
  • Planning to repair or renovate the unit, again in "a reasonable time." In this case, the property has to be unfit or unsafe for someone to live there.
  • The landlord or their immediate family — such as children, grandchildren or spouse — planning to live in the unit, when the landlord doesn't own a similar unit in the same building they could move into.
  • The landlord has agreed to sell the unit to someone who plans "in good faith" to live there. They also have to provide evidence of the planned sale, along with notice, no more than 120 days from the day they strike a deal with a buyer.

If a landlord ends the rental agreement, they have to outline the "qualifying reason" in the termination notice and give "supporting facts." The landlord also has to pay the renter an amount equaling one month's rent when they deliver the termination notice — again, should they have a qualifying reason.

Landlords who manage four or fewer units are exempt from the requirement to pay a month's rent.

There are still instances where landlords can evict month-to-month renters without cause after a year — namely if the landlord's main residence is located on the same property as the tenant's and the property has two units or fewer.

In that case, they can serve a no-cause eviction with 60 days' notice. They can give 30 days' notice if a sale similar to the earlier described is in the works.

Tenants can still be evicted for cause; if, for example, they fail to pay rent or deliberately damage the unit.

Rent increases limited

Landlords can only raise rents once a year for tenants, and when they do, rent increases are capped at 7 percent plus the yearly change in the consumer price index.

The 7-percent plus CPI cap gives property managers wide latitude in raising rents each year, according to a Statesman Journal analysis.

For instance, only once in the past decade have average rents for a 2-bedroom, 1-bath apartment built before 1990 in the Salem-Keizer area surpassed the cap adopted under SB 608, housing data shows.

Properties built in the past 15 years are exempt from the 7 percent plus CPI limit, as are properties where landlords give reduced rents because of government subsidies or programs.

The rules say landlords also have to adhere to the 7 percent plus CPI cap if they evict a resident without cause with 30 days' notice or serve an eviction notice within the first year of occupancy.

Basically, landlords aren't allowed to evict tenants without cause and 30 days' notice just so they can raise rents past the limit.

Landlords with four or fewer units still have to abide by the rent caps, according to Danny Moran, a spokesman for House Speaker Tina Kotek, D-Portland.

The bill isn't just geared toward apartments; single-family rental homes are also affected.

"If someone owned and was renting out a single-family home that they did not live in or live on the property of, they would have to abide by the rent regulation and the for-cause eviction pieces," Moran said.

However, if a landlord lived on the same property with no more than two units, such as a single-family home or accessory dwelling unit, "the owner could still use a no-cause eviction, but they are still subject to the cap on rent," he said.

Post: New Owner, but old lease?

Janis A.Posted
  • Medford, OR
  • Posts 25
  • Votes 8

Thanks @Mike McCarthy.  After your advise I looked more into it and that's the sense that I'm getting.  Tenant claims he never got a copy of the lease from the owner and old owner says she doesn't have a copy.  We're rewriting the lease for the old terms.  While this is a hindrance, it's not going to cause me too many problems, and I'll be able to continue with my original plans in a some months when the lease is up.  

If there's anything I've learned from all the Bigger Pockets podcasts it's that everyone in this venture makes mistakes, has to learn things they didn't know the hard way (some more expensive than others)!  I'm lucky I got a mistake that won't cost me and arm and a leg.  Phew!  

Post: New Owner, but old lease?

Janis A.Posted
  • Medford, OR
  • Posts 25
  • Votes 8

I had an estoppel agreement filled out by tenant, signed by owner and tenant.  So I knew what the basics of the lease were.  So I know how much rent is, what the deposit was, timeline of lease, and all the other info that comes on the estoppel.  

Post: New Owner, but old lease?

Janis A.Posted
  • Medford, OR
  • Posts 25
  • Votes 8

I guess this makes the first big mistake of many I will make along this real estate investment journey!  C'est la vie!!!

Post: New Owner, but old lease?

Janis A.Posted
  • Medford, OR
  • Posts 25
  • Votes 8

What happens if neither the owner nor the tenant can produce the lease?

Post: New Owner, but old lease?

Janis A.Posted
  • Medford, OR
  • Posts 25
  • Votes 8

Hello,

I've just purchased a duplex and signed all the closing documents today.  I did an estoppel and the tenant has a lease with the old owner that ends April 2019.  I'm assumed--and maybe I'm an idiot for doing so--that when the house changes owners all bets are off!  That the old lease would expire or end.  But the property manager I hired (with great recommendations from a senior investor) is questioning if we can raise the rent until after April 2019.  I live in the State of Oregon.

Thoughts?  Answers? 

Thanks.

Post: Repairs, Maintenance, and/or CapEx--Calculating savings

Janis A.Posted
  • Medford, OR
  • Posts 25
  • Votes 8

I am so excited to announce that after 8 months and over 10+ rejected offers I finally bought my first investment property!!! I already own a SFH. Now I'm closing on a duplex and will be moving in there, renting out my SFH and one side of the duplex. This certainly wasn't the first step, but it's a huge step! I am so excited. :)

I'm calculating what rent I will be charging in order to account for mortgage, vacancy, repairs, maintenance, property management, CapEx, and profit. I have per month: 5% for vacancy, 5% repairs, 8% for property management (already know this is the actual figure with the management company I'm hiring), and $187 for CapEx. I used the data I gathered from Brandon Turner's book "The Book on Real Estate Property Investing" to get those numbers.  However, when using the rental property calculator on this website, the tool accounts for vacancy, repairs, maintenance, and property management, but not CapEx.  Maybe the report is replacing CapEx with maintenance?  

Suggestions on what I should be accounting for?  

Post: Are my numbers way off???

Janis A.Posted
  • Medford, OR
  • Posts 25
  • Votes 8

So I've been in the market since November trying to buy a multi family property (duplexes/triplexes).  I'm typically offering around 70% of asking price in order to make workable numbers.  I've been using the Bigger Pockets calculator religious to tally up what is the highest I'm willing to pay.  I've noticed that the multi family properties I offer on are getting asking price and more and I can't figure out how people are making the numbers?!  How are people paying so much and expecting to profit?  I know that some of the buyers are just people who are not investors, but some are investors.  I'm wondering what I'm missing, maybe I'm making a mistake with the numbers.  I want to get my foot in the real estate investment door so bad.  I'm just flabbergasted how fast even multi family properties are going and for more than asking price.  

Multi families that sold for $120k 15 years ago are selling for $270k today.  I am so 15 years too late!