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All Forum Posts by: Jamy Lomento

Jamy Lomento has started 3 posts and replied 14 times.

Quote from @Jamie Parker:
Quote from @Jamy Lomento:

I'm a new investor seeking my first SFH. I have enough cash to cover a 20% down payment and repairs but would like to use as little of my own money as possible. I plan to buy in the next 90 -120 days, then cash out refi to purchase another property by end of 2QCY24 and do the same to obtain a multifamily by year-end 2024. For my first property and to deliver on this strategy, should I look for something turnkey and needing little reno and go conventional OR look for something I can get for 80% of purchase price, force equity through reno, and use hard money to cover down payment and reno costs?

Why conventional and hard money are two ways to do it, Private Lending could be a nice go between. Financing purchase and rehab in one mortgage. A 203k loan(a conventional product)  has some perks depending on how much rehab you are looking to do.  Hard money usually has an expiration date like 12 months maybe 18 months but thats rare. Private lending could run all the way thru a 30 year term, because the flexible terms and many times no prepayment penalty requirement, you can cash out refi. As long as your "numbers" work.


 Getting a good deal will help out a ton no matter which way you run the funding. 


I am positive I'll have to look at a ridiculous number of properties to find something that will work for me. I'm not afraid to part with my money, but would prefer OPM where I can. In talking with some lenders from my local REIA, I do have some options that could work, but everything has to align.

Quote from @Nicholas L.:

@Jamy Lomento

buying something below market value, fixing and then refinancing is a BRRRR. and to successfully execute a BRRRR, you need to buy waaaaaaaaaaaay below market value - not 80%. more like 40-50%. and there are lots of costs involved in a BRRRR that get overlooked on BP - closing costs, holding costs, financing costs, refi costs. these can be tens of thousands of dollars. the simplistic formula of, for example, buy for 100 rehab for 50 refi at 200 is way off and understates the costs involved. i even heard david greene say on a recent podcast that you can get 80% LTV on a refi. but i'm seeing 65-70%.

and also... as others in this thread noted, despite the hype, hard money lenders don't just hand out 100% of needed funds.  hard money... requires a down payment just like conventional unless you have a long track record or some kind of unique relationship with a specific lender. and to go back to my first point, if you don't knock the equity increase out of the park, the HML is due, and you'll have to cover it with your own cash. HML just isn't a panacea. it's actually high cost and high risk.

not trying to be discouraging, just trying to be realistic.

some kind of live-in flip or house hack would be lower risk.  are you looking at properties and talking to lenders?  Or still in the planning stage?


 Appreciate the info. The numbers I'm running when looking at properties are reflective of this. I'm looking at a house hack for the future, but not now. And yes, I'm both looking at properties and talking to lenders. 

@Account Closed - I sold my primary residence in November 2022. I could see FHA as an option.

@Dennis Muno Totally tracking with what you're saying. I'm looking at lenders in the area I want to purchase now to see the rate variety. I have an idea of a few different areas of my investment areas to focus on, and I'm sure that will have an impact as well.

@Bobby Feinman Thanks for the info. In your scenario, liquidity isn't my problem, but experience would be. I just want to use leverage instead of forking over my own funds inasmuch as possible. 

@Greg Scott - Appreciate the response. Keeping the cash working for me in what I'm interested in and agree that, depending on the property, I could end up in the same place. I also wonder about the impacts of falling home prices on my strategy.

I'm a new investor seeking my first SFH. I have enough cash to cover a 20% down payment and repairs but would like to use as little of my own money as possible. I plan to buy in the next 90 -120 days, then cash out refi to purchase another property by end of 2QCY24 and do the same to obtain a multifamily by year-end 2024. For my first property and to deliver on this strategy, should I look for something turnkey and needing little reno and go conventional OR look for something I can get for 80% of purchase price, force equity through reno, and use hard money to cover down payment and reno costs?

Post: New Investor in a New Market

Jamy LomentoPosted
  • New Jersey
  • Posts 14
  • Votes 8

@Josh Uhlenkamp - absolutely agree about paying for skill and convenience. If I was local to my market, I'd be doing some, but some all things myself. Appreciate the contact for the Hampton Road area. I'll be in touch! 

Post: New Investor in a New Market

Jamy LomentoPosted
  • New Jersey
  • Posts 14
  • Votes 8

@Christian Ehlers - Thanks for the reply! I have confidence in my contractors, who's done several jobs for me. His realtor wife set me up with MLS searches, but she's not a real estate investor agent, so I'd be educating her. I want to purchase a SFH in the next 90 days, then move to a house hack in another area as the NOVA move was only a pit stop.

Post: New Investor in a New Market

Jamy LomentoPosted
  • New Jersey
  • Posts 14
  • Votes 8

@Bryce Jamison - Thanks for the reply! I really don't want to invest in the market I'm in now because it is so pricey. I only plan to be in this area for a year before I relocate and that next stop would be a house hack. My goal is to find a SFH in the next 90 days, which is pretty aggressive, then start looking for that house hack.