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All Forum Posts by: James W.

James W. has started 12 posts and replied 125 times.

Post: Hi, new slumlord here. General advice request.

James W.Posted
  • Investor, Entrepreneur
  • Greenville, WI
  • Posts 138
  • Votes 27
Originally posted by @Michael Seeker:
Originally posted by @James W.:

Hey BP!

Say you have a duplex that you paid $60k for.

Rental income is $1000/month. ($500 upper / $500 lower), property taxes ~2500, insurance ~$600, no major expenses on my end, utilities all in tenants name.

Basement has water issues and foundation issues. Lower tenant is a slob, has clothes piled and molding. Upper tenant is smoking in the unit, also a slob.

Both rents are paid on time, they have no intention of moving.

Do you do anything to fix the water issue, considering the tenants don't care? Do I have a legal obligation to advise them maybe it's not a good idea to live that way? Do I have a legal obligation to fix the water issue?

The property obviously cash flows, so I'm torn between just ignoring it and keep collecting the rent... speaking up and giving them a pep talk (which is a waste of my time)... or putting it up on the market and letting some other heartless bastard worry about it.

Problems will only get worse, not better.  The problems (as I see them) are:

1. Lack of proper maintenance
2. Poor tenant selection

These can both be addressed by YOU!  Start by fixing things that are wrong (ex. water leak and any damage), then get firm with the tenants and either straighten them out or kick them out if they're not interested.  If you've got a slob in one unit and an inside smoker in the other, then you'll have a hard time attracting good tenants when one or the other moves out.

If you don't want to fix the problems, then you should expect them to get worse.  The property may cashflow fine and in it's current state maybe you can even get your initial $60K back if you sell today.  If you continue to just sit back and ignore the issues, then I wouldn't count on getting $60K once you get to the point where you can't take it anymore and have to sell.

 You are correct on 1 and 2. Neither are my fault, but nonetheless - you are correct.

Luckily for me, the property is worth more than 60k so I'm not terribly concerned about losing money on the investment at this time... I'm just trying to determine how I want to proceed.

Thanks for the feedback. :)

Post: Hi, new slumlord here. General advice request.

James W.Posted
  • Investor, Entrepreneur
  • Greenville, WI
  • Posts 138
  • Votes 27
Originally posted by @Patrick L.:

Do you like being sued?   Just wait until someone gets sick from the mold problem caused by a water leak that  you chose not to fix...

 The mold is actually caused by the tenant leaving their clothes in a place that they knew water collects when there is heavy rain. 

It's not my job to clean their mess.

This particular duplex is almost 100 years old and fixing the foundation and leaks may end up costing more than just razing the place and rebuilding.

With that said... I'm well aware that I could be sued for anything, by anyone, at any time. 

My question is do I have a legal obligation to fix it? If so, I may want to just dump the property - there are plenty of people out there that are far more capable than I to handle something like this.

Thanks for the comment :)

Post: Hi, new slumlord here. General advice request.

James W.Posted
  • Investor, Entrepreneur
  • Greenville, WI
  • Posts 138
  • Votes 27
Originally posted by @Linda Weygant:

I wouldn't worry too much about the smoker in the upper unit.  The damage to the unit has already been done.  If you're happy with that cashflow, then let it go.

The lower unit is definitely an issue.  I would fix the water and mold issues.  If you can do so without displacing the tenant, that would be ideal.  If not, and the neighborhood supports it, I'd fix that and then do a complete refresh and see if you can rent it at a higher amount.

 Thank you for the constructive feedback Linda :)

Post: Hi, new slumlord here. General advice request.

James W.Posted
  • Investor, Entrepreneur
  • Greenville, WI
  • Posts 138
  • Votes 27

Before anyone starts judging (not that I care :P)... I just purchased this one along with 10 others, and these are some of the problems that were handed to me. I've had the properties for about a month now and I've already fixed more in that time than the last owners did in 5 years.

I've still got an easy $100,000 worth of issues to decide what to do with.

MY kneejerk reaction is to fix everything right, but that's not always possible or the right way to be an investor.

Continue, please...

Post: Hi, new slumlord here. General advice request.

James W.Posted
  • Investor, Entrepreneur
  • Greenville, WI
  • Posts 138
  • Votes 27

Hey BP!

Say you have a duplex that you paid $60k for.

Rental income is $1000/month. ($500 upper / $500 lower), property taxes ~2500, insurance ~$600, no major expenses on my end, utilities all in tenants name.

Basement has water issues and foundation issues. Lower tenant is a slob, has clothes piled and molding. Upper tenant is smoking in the unit, also a slob.

Both rents are paid on time, they have no intention of moving.

Do you do anything to fix the water issue, considering the tenants don't care? Do I have a legal obligation to advise them maybe it's not a good idea to live that way? Do I have a legal obligation to fix the water issue?

The property obviously cash flows, so I'm torn between just ignoring it and keep collecting the rent... speaking up and giving them a pep talk (which is a waste of my time)... or putting it up on the market and letting some other heartless bastard worry about it.

Post: Small profit flip - looking for feedback

James W.Posted
  • Investor, Entrepreneur
  • Greenville, WI
  • Posts 138
  • Votes 27
Originally posted by @Account Closed:

No realtor fees?  Are you going to sell it by owner?

Yep. Paying cash, FSBO.

Realtor friend partnering on this one with me works for a realty that also owns a title company so those fees are going to be extremely low as well.

IF we have to list it, the realtor fees that would go to the company will be 2%, which we would split out of the profit.

Post: Small profit flip - looking for feedback

James W.Posted
  • Investor, Entrepreneur
  • Greenville, WI
  • Posts 138
  • Votes 27

Thank you for the feedback sir! 

Post: Small profit flip - looking for feedback

James W.Posted
  • Investor, Entrepreneur
  • Greenville, WI
  • Posts 138
  • Votes 27

There are no realtor fees. 

Since I'm replying here, I'll mention that the property is appraised higher than we thought - 130k

Post: Small profit flip - looking for feedback

James W.Posted
  • Investor, Entrepreneur
  • Greenville, WI
  • Posts 138
  • Votes 27

Thanks everyone!

"Wholetail" - I love it :)

Post: Small profit flip - looking for feedback

James W.Posted
  • Investor, Entrepreneur
  • Greenville, WI
  • Posts 138
  • Votes 27

Everyone seems to be missing the part about how I only want to put money into repairs if we have to do so in order to get a buyer approved for an FHA or VA loan.

I probably posted this in the wrong section, since everyone here is looking at putting money into a home to increase value. 

- The house is worth 120k as-is and we can get it for 85k (this is the reason to do the deal). 

- We believe we can get it to pass an inspection (if needed) for 10k or less.

- We believe it won't take long to find a buyer.

@Bryan C. the inspection is a good point, thank you for that. I'll order an appraisal before continuing.

@Vincent Crane can you give me a link to a 70% rule discussion?

@Christopher B. I understand your assumptions, and they are valid. Thank you for your feedback.

Again, I was only looking for comments on the numbers. Perhaps I should have posted this in a lending section, because that's really all I'm doing - putting up X with the expectation of receiving Y returned in Z time. 

Is my % of return too low for that amount of capital and time? (That should have been my original question. I'm learning! :D )