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All Forum Posts by: James Roet

James Roet has started 2 posts and replied 10 times.

Post: First time home buyers that want to house hack

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Quote from @Patrick McCann:

Hi James. Wouldn’t consider myself to be a mentor as I just got started myself, but I am currently house hacking a duplex I recently purchased in Dover NH just a few months ago. I can answer any questions you may have from what I have learned and connect you with any of my contacts (agent, mortgage lender etc) if needed.

Hi Patrick,

That's perfect. I'll DM you now, thanks.

James

Post: First time home buyers that want to house hack

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Quote from @Jaylan Archer:

Hey James!

Congrats on starting to make the steps to start your investing journey. Where in NH or Mass are you considering?

House hacking a four-unit property can be a smart financial move that can help you reduce your living expenses and generate rental income. Here are some best practices to consider when house hacking a four-unit property:

  1. Know your local real estate market: Research the local real estate market to understand the rental rates and property values in the area. This will help you determine the potential rental income and potential return on investment.
  2. Determine your financing options: Talk to a mortgage lender or financial advisor to explore your financing options for purchasing the four-unit property. You may be able to qualify for a conventional mortgage, an FHA loan, or other financing options. I would recommend staying with four or less units like a few others have mentioned.
  3.  You may want to consider hiring a property manager to help with these tasks. I'm happy to make some recommendations for this.
  4. Plan for the long-term: House hacking a four-unit property can be a long-term investment, so plan accordingly. Consider your long-term goals and how the property fits into your overall financial plan.

Happy to connect if you'd like.


 Thanks for the info and suggestions Jaylen. I have a few questions for you - 

Re: Know your local real estate market: This could probably be a long conversation, but what metrics, methods or thought processes do you use to evaluate a market? The easiest metrics for me to look at are affordability, median home price, mortgage rates, and a few other that redfin provides. However, I don't really know what the next steps are to evaluate whether now is a "good" time to buy and ultimately keep coming back to the realization that no one knows what the market will do regardless of where it's at today, so I might as well get in sooner rather than later.  

Re: FHA loans... I like the idea of putting less money down on a multi unit. This is because ideally we'd be jumping into our own single family after a year of so of living in the multi (and still keep the multi after making the switch). Does an FHA always allow for putting less money down than a conventional in this situation? We both have great credit so I hadn't considered FHA as an option.

Re: "Plan long term..." My mindset coming into this that the cashflow is more of a means to maintain and grow while the real gains will come with the long term appreciation of the property value. Writing discrete goals is on my long to-do list so I appreciate you suggesting that option.

I'd like to take you up on the opportunity to connect if possible. I'll shoot you a DM now. 

Thanks!

James

Post: First time home buyers that want to house hack

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Hi @Kelsey Jurewicz,

Thanks for the suggestions. That seems to be the consensus next step so we will heed your advice and focus on getting preapproved. 

Thanks,

James

Post: First time home buyers that want to house hack

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Hi @Anthony Torri,

Thanks for the information. I'll certainly take you up on that phone call and any contacts you may have in the area. 

Post: First time home buyers that want to house hack

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Thank you for the perspective @Randall Alan!

Post: First time home buyers that want to house hack

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Hi @Jeremy Nault,

House hacking seems to be the consensus beginner method to make money based on the podcasts I've heard. I'd love to hear your perspective on it.

I'm in Manchester, NH and would be happy to get a drink or have a MS teams meeting if you're available. I'll send you a direct message in a few minutes.

Thanks,

James

Post: First time home buyers that want to house hack

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Quote from @Randall Alan:

From a financing perspective, you can only do a residential loan for a 1 to 4 unit property.  Above 4 units and you are now talking about a commercial loan.  So ideally you will want to stick with 1-4. 

House hacking is definitely the cheapest way into multiple units... you only need the 3-5% down, versus 20%.  Your next step would probably be to reach out to a mortgage broker and let him tell you what you can afford and sort of pre-qualify you both for the size of the loan, as well as tell you all the things to do / not do as far as getting you positioned to buy.  He can also pull your credit, let you know where you would stand with a rate, any challenges they see, etc.  Budget is important.  One thing to ask is if and when they will count the additional rents on the other units of a multi-family house.  Sometimes the lender wants a track record of those rents.  So if you were buying into a multi-family that is vacant... that can be a problem.  Underwriting always asks us for our leases on the units to allow us to offset the debt with the income the other units provide.  No leases = no income offset = harder time qualifying, as your own income has to be used to support the purchase of a larger property.  It can run into issues with debt to income ratios.

The other big challenge right now is that real estate is more expensive than it's been, AND money is more expensive, and will probably remain that way for at least the next year or two if I had to guess as prices try to reset from their recent run-up.  Prices will start to ease off the higher the Fed cranks the interest rates if basic market dynamics play out.  But unfortunately the lower housing prices will be offset by your payment going up because of the higher mortgage rates.  Mortgage rates aren't tied directly to the Fed's rate changes - they track the 10 year treasury note more closely... but with that said, they do seem to follow along loosely with the Fed's actions.

I will tell you from my experience that finding single family homes are easier - just because there are more of them.  With more investors looking for multi-family, and there being fewer of them, they are just a little harder to buy just due to the competition - especially if they have deeper pockets to be able to buy with cash, versus your financed offer.  You can execute your plan the same way with a single family house though as you could with multi... live in it for a year, then move into a new single family.  Yes - multi gives you extra income, and a little more stability if one side goes vacant... but don't write off single family if the deal is there.  Given a choice - multi is a quicker way to get you where you want to be... but if you aren't finding any that work... maybe not.  So just keep in mind there is a path with single family as well. 

Wish you all the best!

Randy

Hi Randy,

Thanks for the awesome perspective and advice. I was hoping for a response exactly like that when I posted.

A couple of brief follow up questions for you -

House hacking is definitely the cheapest way into multiple units... you only need the 3-5% down, versus 20%.

This means living in the house allows you to put less down, correct? Or is it due to being a first-time home buyer?

Your next step would probably be to reach out to a mortgage broker...

Would you suggest diversifying mortgage brokers options somehow? I've heard it's best to explore big banks vs small banks, etc. When we're ready to buy, do people typically leverage loan offers against each other to get a better deal?

You can execute your plan the same way with a single family house though as you could with multi... live in it for a year, then move into a new single family.
Can you suggest a good resource, or what should I search for learning how to invest in, and live in, single family homes for the purposes of investing rather than just for living.

I like your point on considering the cost of money right now although from what I've heard, affordability is getting better. It seems like the market is at a crossroads right now and is responding to the fed funds rate hikes in some atypical ways. My newbie feeling is that I would prefer to see housing prices come down even at the cost of rising mortgage rates, although that may be the "wrong" thought to have.

Thanks again and nice e-meeting you.

James







Post: First time home buyers that want to house hack

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Hi all,

I'm James and my wife is Lyndsay. We recently got married and are looking to buy a house in New Hampshire or Massachusetts. 

We've been passively looking at single family houses for about a year, but I've always wanted to get into a multi unit as our first property and reap the financial benefits that come from "house hacking". 

Recently, I started listening to Bigger Pockets' Real Estate and On The Market podcasts which have made me a lot more serious about house hacking for our first property. As of now, our goal would be to purchase a 2 to 5 unit place (which we occupy one unit in), then purchase and move into a single family ~1 year later, and continue to purchase properties with the end goal being a switch to real estate investing as our full time jobs.

Although I feel I'm gaining knowledge on real estate investing on a daily basis, ultimately I think we need some sort of a mentor or business partner to help us make the jump into house hacking and real estate investing. If that mentor happens to stumble across this post, I'd market us as being worthy mentees for the following reasons: We're willing to learn, incredibly hard working, trustworthy, driven, starting from a solid financial position, and would like someone we can do repeat business with.

Thank you,

James



Post: [Calc Review] Help me analyze this deal

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Quote from @Taylor Dasch:

I'm not sure if you input this incorrectly, but a $775,000 investment bringing in 2k/mo is not good at all. 

The calculator estimates -3000 cash flow. Not sure where the discrepancy is but would need to be fixed to properly analyze this. 


 Hi Taylor,

Yes I agree and thank you for the comment. The analysis inputs seem straight forward so I'm not sure where I would have made a mistake. It's my first time using this tool, however, so it's entirely possible I did make a mistake.

One factor that I'm not sure how to address and may be affecting the calculator:      We're first time homebuyers, looking to buy a multifamily (duplex, triplex, or quadplex) and live in it along with our tenants. Since we will be occupying one unit and that unit will not be generating income, do I omit it's rental income from the total rent when using the calculator?

That is what I did in this analysis.

Thanks,

James

Post: [Calc Review] Help me analyze this deal

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