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All Forum Posts by: James Khail

James Khail has started 3 posts and replied 4 times.

I'm looking to purchase a rental property in the Greater Seattle Metro area for maximum purchase price of 550k. 

I'm assuming based on my budget, that totally rules out being able to afford a single-family home? (Please correct me if I'm wrong)

I'm looking to purchase in B class (or better) area, preferably better. 

I'm looking for decent rental income as well as equity. My preference would be areas with tech workers, software professionals, etc. 

Any specific areas in the Greater Seattle Metro area where townhomes could be purchased for maximum $550k?

Any city, neighborhood, communities, or subdivision recommendations would be really appreciated.

Thank you

I live in the SF Bay Area and have decided to buy my first single-family home.

I fully acknowledge and recognize that the SF Bay Area and California (in general) may have some of the worst cash flow numbers in the entire country.

I've already traveled to cheaper Midwestern states to look at real estate opportunities, but have decided to invest here in the SF Bay Area as I'm purchasing with the intention of living in it first and foremost, and then renting it out sometime in the near future when I move overseas.

I'm looking for anywhere in the Greater Bay Area/Northern California region (even Sacramento & Central Valley is okay) with better than average purchase price to rent ratio, and some appreciation (if possible). 

My budget is 850k and I'm focusing on the below priorities:

1. Low vacancy rate

2. Decent tenant pool

3. At least some equity/appreciation

4. Decent purchase price to rent ratio

Some of the areas I'm looking into are:

Hayward

San Leandro

Oakley

Concord

Pleasant Hill

Brentwood

Tracy

Manteca

Turlock

Modesto

Sacramento

My concern about some of the areas specifically in the Central Valley (often recommended here on BP) like Fresno, Turlock, etc, is that looking at numbers the appreciation doesn't seem to meet the mark for me (purchase price to rent ratio is decent, but equity isn't very good), so I'm generally focused more on the SF Bay Area.

Any recommendations on cities or areas would be extremely helpful. 

Quote from @Gene Hacker:

I share your concerns about investing in California because of their policies that benefit deadbeat tenants.  I have minimized that risk by being very strict in my underwriting.  Waiting for a solid applicant with decent credit and rental history has helped me find good tenants that do the right thing.  

Short term or midterm rentals (under 30 days) can also limit your exposure to the negatives of California's tenant laws. 


 Thanks Gene.

Can you share more about how you vet tenants for long-term rentals in California?

I know you mentioned credit + rental history but can you share exactly all the steps you go through and which tools you use?

Thank you 

I'm in a bit of a unique situation in that I'm a California resident and can only invest in properties all-cash for religious reasons.

I'm not able to use leverage/loans, and I know and accept that investing all cash is not common, but thats the way I do it. 

My goals are purchasing single-family homes in lower cost areas ($250,000 maximum purchase price) and my priority is buy and hold. Equity/appreciation is less of a concern for me, although it'd be a nice to have. 

I'm also not interested in condos/townhouses as I owned one previously locally, and it really restricted what I could do. 

I've been debating where I should invest for a number of years, and think I need to just get into it, as a lot of time has gone by without me doing anything. 

The reason for the delay is because I initially thought I'd invest in low cost areas of California like Fresno, Bakersfield, Stockton, Sacramento, etc (due to being somewhat within driving distance of the SF Bay Area) but I held back because California's landlord laws made me very concerned.

I didn't want to end up in drawn out court battles with a renter just squatting at a place I purchased with my cash. 

For that reason, I decided to start flying to/visiting states like North Carolina, Ohio, Texas, Missouri, etc. 

The issue I found when visiting these places is that the nicer suburbs are not much cheaper than some of the cheaper areas of California (many single families are in the high $200,000's/low $300,000's so the draw is not as enticing if I can purchase something in my state for a similar price). 

I know the quality of the home and neighborhood won't be the same in California, but because I'm targeting buy and hold, I just need a property with okay or decent rental yields. Not a fancy ranch home or newer build.

After visiting these States, I just didn't see the benefit of investing in $200,000 in a B- class neighborhood in Ohio, which is a 5 hour flight away, when I could maybe invest a similar amount  in the California Central Valley in a C class neighborhood that I could drive to when needed.

Yes, the landlord laws may not be as friendly, but maybe I could just be really stringent when fielding tenants? I've also heard anecdotally on BiggerPockets that the concept of other States being super landlord friendly is sometimes overblown (in other words, sometimes even in the most landlord friendly states, things can get sticky)

In other words, I'm not sure how much the potentially friendlier landlord laws would convince me to purchase far away in other state, when that also comes with its own challenges (the inability to self manage, property management fees, etc) 

This debate on whether I should locally invest vs out of state has left me wasting time so now I feel I just have to make a decision and go for it. 

1. Would it better as a California resident to invest my money in a low price area of California due to driving distance and proximity? Or are the landlord laws simply too draconian in California to warrant the risk? 

Are decent buy and hold returns still found in some parts of California? If so, which regions should I be looking at?

2. Or would it simply be better to stick to my original plan and just go out of state? Any states close to California with good rental returns where a single family (3/2 or 2/1) can be purchased for $250,000 or less, all cash? 

Unfortunately, this is my max budget, and I wouldn't be able to go above this amount at all.