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All Forum Posts by: James Gee

James Gee has started 1 posts and replied 9 times.

Post: Multi Family Apartment investing

James Gee
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  • Saint Louis, MO
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Quote from @Eudith Vacio:

Hey @James Gee - were you able to make any connections? Let us know how your journey is going!

Hey Eudith!

So an update on my journey. I have recently decided to sell my residential properties and cashing in my retirement to reposition myself into commercial multi family. With saying that I have met a broker and he is helping with that process of selling my properties and repositioning.


Post: Multi Family Apartment investing

James Gee
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  • Saint Louis, MO
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Quote from @Jason Thompson:

@James Gee What are your investment goals for 2023 and how can I help you?


 My goal is to purchase my first apartment building. I will take any help I can get. I would love to connect with you.

Post: Multi Family Apartment investing

James Gee
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  • Saint Louis, MO
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Quote from @Gino Barbaro:

@James Gee

Approach them as you would a residential broker. Understand values in your market, know how to underwrite deals, give them your buy right criteria, and show them that you have a business plan.

Brokers do not want to work with tire kickers. They want to show properties to investors who can close deals. You have closed several deals, and I would create a story why you are transitioning to multifamily.

Google all the multifamily brokers in your market and begin to opt in to their lists.Start looking for their listings, and begin to underwrite them. Once you find one that is close to what you're looking for, schedule a property tour.

Good Luck!!


 The legendary Gino!!

Thank you for your insight. I will make sure to apply this when contacting brokers & I will also focus on creating my story. 

Thank you.

Post: Multi Family Apartment investing

James Gee
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  • Saint Louis, MO
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Quote from @Jason Thompson:

@James Gee Hey James, you could start contacting syndication companies and ask how you can help them, and volunteer for some experience. Underwriting is a big one that most syndications require, so educating yourself on financial modelling would be advisable. I hope this helps James. 

Thank you Jason! I will look into this.

Post: Multi Family Apartment investing

James Gee
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  • Saint Louis, MO
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Quote from @Neil Cronkrite:
Quote from @James Gee:
Quote from @Neil Cronkrite:

@James Gee What got you interested in multifamily over other asset classes? What's your experience (in real estate investing or outside work) coming into multifamily investing? 

Hey Neil!
so my real estate experience is I’ve been doing mainly buy and hold residential for the past 5 years. Mainly duplexes. I’ve also done a couples flips. Besides that I have been a plumber for 8 years. 

I would have to say a couple thing that have got me interested are:

1. scalability. I did a couple BRRRRs on a couple duplexes. Each one took about roughly 7- 10 months to complete(full gut rehabs). I didn’t make much of the refi on one and left money in the deal on the other. Not to mention I had to service that debt on the properties during the rehab because they where distressed/ vacant. I say all that to say these 2 duplex’s cash flow about $1500/mo in total. Which isn’t bad but not as attractive as larger multi family.

2. I love the forced appreciation method. And how the properties are valued as assets based off the income it produces vs a residential home based on what sold in the area. I think it’s more straightforward with evaluating a property because numbers don’t lie.

 3. I like partnerships. I like the fact that I can partner with people we can bring different skills to the table and help each other.This is coming from someone who has been property manager, maintenance, general contractor & plumber! It’s not a scalable approach from my experience. I was literally working 4 jobs while working a fully time job and trying to find more deals & educate myself everyday. 

much respect to those who are successful doing it but I don’t want that approach. I would rather have a slice of the cake instead of my my own piece of candy.

I have more reason why I find it attractive but those are a few! Sorry for the long response.

Those are all great reasons! All great reasons for any commercial real estate asset class. But why multifamily? And not any other asset class like parking, surgical centers, gas stations, campgrounds, restaurants, non-grocery anchored retail center, industrial, etc? I know I'm being a little difficult, but I found that due to the amount of books on multifamily, investors think the only way to scale is through apartments. Or folks like to say "everyone needs a place to live." Everyone also needs to eat...should I invest in farmland? Be really specifically on why multifamily in particular! This will help as you navigate raising capital from passive investors. 

 wow thank you so much on that. I never looked at it from that perspective! I really appreciate that and will get better. That you again for the eye opener!

Post: Multi Family Apartment investing

James Gee
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  • Saint Louis, MO
  • Posts 9
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Quote from @Neil Cronkrite:

@James Gee What got you interested in multifamily over other asset classes? What's your experience (in real estate investing or outside work) coming into multifamily investing? 

Hey Neil!
so my real estate experience is I’ve been doing mainly buy and hold residential for the past 5 years. Mainly duplexes. I’ve also done a couples flips. Besides that I have been a plumber for 8 years. 

I would have to say a couple thing that have got me interested are:

1. scalability. I did a couple BRRRRs on a couple duplexes. Each one took about roughly 7- 10 months to complete(full gut rehabs). I didn’t make much of the refi on one and left money in the deal on the other. Not to mention I had to service that debt on the properties during the rehab because they where distressed/ vacant. I say all that to say these 2 duplex’s cash flow about $1500/mo in total. Which isn’t bad but not as attractive as larger multi family.

2. I love the forced appreciation method. And how the properties are valued as assets based off the income it produces vs a residential home based on what sold in the area. I think it’s more straightforward with evaluating a property because numbers don’t lie.

 3. I like partnerships. I like the fact that I can partner with people we can bring different skills to the table and help each other.This is coming from someone who has been property manager, maintenance, general contractor & plumber! It’s not a scalable approach from my experience. I was literally working 4 jobs while working a fully time job and trying to find more deals & educate myself everyday. 

much respect to those who are successful doing it but I don’t want that approach. I would rather have a slice of the cake instead of my my own piece of candy.

I have more reason why I find it attractive but those are a few! Sorry for the long response.

Post: Multi Family Apartment investing

James Gee
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  • Saint Louis, MO
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Quote from @E. C. "Stony" Stonebraker:

@James Gee, the best resource, by far, is Beau Beery's book, Multifamily Investors Who Dominate.  

Thank you! I will check this out asap

Post: Multi Family Apartment investing

James Gee
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  • Saint Louis, MO
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Quote from @Jason Thompson:

@James Gee Try loopnet.com or crexi.com. You can do a broker search for specific areas and can adjust to multifamily brokers in the filters sections. Just start calling them and giving them your criteria. The more you engage with them, the more you'll learn their 'lingo.' Multifamily is a perfect space to be investing. Let me know if you need anything else. Best of luck, and have a great day, James.

Thank you! And will do I appreciate the feed back.

Post: Multi Family Apartment investing

James Gee
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Hello I am on my road to multi family apartment investing! I am look for brokers and ways to approach brokers in a confident and professional manner as a beginner in the space I have a could duplexes and single family rentals so I’m not a complete beginner but new to the apartment world. Anything would help thanks!