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All Forum Posts by: Jacob Pierson

Jacob Pierson has started 3 posts and replied 11 times.

Hello,

 I recently (9-1-22) purchased a duplex here in the Sacramento area. I am looking for a Real Estate Attorney or a CPA who specializes in Real Estate. I want to make sure I am doing everything right as a landlord legally and also explore my tax benefits (if any) and how to go about the whole process as this is all new to me. Any help would be much appreciated!

Hello,

I was wondering if anyone here might be able to tell me what the proper zonings are in the Sacramento/Placer county to be able to subdivide/split up the property or to add additional homes/ADU/DADU on the property. I have reached out to both counties but have yet to hear back from them. If anyone knows it would be much appreciated. Thanks!

I've been looking at duplexes/triplex for months now. It has been a ride that is for sure. I agree that most duplexes are in not the greatest of areas/conditions/outdated but this also give you opportunity for forced appreciation and in some cases leverage in your negotiation to getting the price down. In the end its a numbers game and you should always make sure the numbers work for you. I don't know where you are looking but you may need to expand your area if you are willing/able to commute. I would say in my area with what I am looking for in my price range its about 1 out of every 30 is in and area I like and of those 8 out of 10 the numbers don't work. Just keep looking and try running different numbers/scenarios 

ex: increasing your purchase price but also getting more rent to offset the cost

     -lower down payment to help leave you money to renovate and force appreciation

Remember its a numbers game the more listings you see the higher your chances are of finding one. Hope this helps.

Quote from @Rick Albert:

You are in California, it is likely under statewide rent control, which means it could fall under the "no fault eviction" clause. 

The safest way to do this is to have the Seller make sure that the tenants are out prior to the close of escrow. Make sure it is done before you and the lender funds.

You can't take the risk of doing it yourself, especially as a first time home buyer. I would never let my clients do it and I know someone who tried and last I heard failed miserably. 


 I just did some research on the Sacramento Landlord program and it looks like one of the reasons for a "just cause eviction" is Owner move-in.

Quote from @Rick Albert:

You are in California, it is likely under statewide rent control, which means it could fall under the "no fault eviction" clause. 

The safest way to do this is to have the Seller make sure that the tenants are out prior to the close of escrow. Make sure it is done before you and the lender funds.

You can't take the risk of doing it yourself, especially as a first time home buyer. I would never let my clients do it and I know someone who tried and last I heard failed miserably. 


 Thank you, I am looking into this right now to see how to go about this. Thanks for the info!

Quote from @Benjamin Aaker:

Laws vary state to state, but if the contract is month to month, state law will have a minimum timeframe for you to give notice. I know you want to get the rehab done as quickly as possible, but be sure to be respectful of the tenant, who may have lived there for a while, and now is being asked (told) to leave. Though it is not required, a kind landlord will help them find a new place and give extra time for this.

Could you rent somewhere else while giving your tenants time to move out? Another option is to (gradually) raise the rent on your month to month tenants. If they are willing to pay market rents though the place is unrehabbed, you will have a net gain. I understand you will still need a place to live. 


 Thank you for the info. I am currently renting right now and have a place to live during the rehab. I thought about looking into giving them a 2 month extension at a lower rate tenative on them vacating the property by the 60day mark in the exact condition it is when I take ownership.

Quote from @Craig Clinton:

I wouldn't close unless you have at least one unit vacant.  California is like NJ (actually NJ follows CA's lead), the laws favor the tenant.  Even if you get it in writing that they're gonna move out after closing, you just never know.  And this being your first investment purchase, better safe than sorry.

Unless you are adding a bedroom to the section 8's unit, I would try to get that person to agree to move.  I'm sure CA is like NJ too with section 8.......it's very hard to increase rents more than $25 per month unless you add at least 1 bedroom.  Even if the current rent is well below market rent, you won't be able to increase rent more than $25 without a fight.

Good luck!


 Good to know! Thanks for the tip! The current rent right now is about $600-800 shy of market right now so there is a big gap to fill. I would like to get them both out so I can rehab it and get it up to market.

Quote from @Corby Goade:
Quote from @Jacob Pierson:

Hello,

   I am currently looking into purchasing my first multifamily property (duplex) here in the California valley . Currently both side of the unit are being rented out and one of them is section 8. The property is in rough shape and needs to be updated badly. I was looking to owner/occupy but I would need to have both of  the current tenants out so I could complete the needed repairs and updates. What would be the proper way to go about this in order to do this correctly/legally? Any info or help would be much appreciated. Thanks


 With the current leases being M2M, you could ask for them to be delivered vacant, but it would have to be done out of the kindness of the seller's heart, because based on your question, the seller is not compelled to do that. 

Have you spoken with your lender about this? Unless you are paying cash, the chances of your deal clearing underwriting before you have a clear path to occupancy within 60 days of close are very low. You'll need to have documentation showing that one of the units will be vacated within 60 days of close. I'd chat with your lender and realtor and get on that sooner than later so you aren't hit with a surprise at the last minute by the underwriters. 

Best of luck!


 I appreciate the info about the under writer and I have reached out to them. I have been in contact with my agent trying to get all the info. It has been a difficult process to contact the listing agent and get any info out of them about the property. They are not doing any showings, we are unable to look at the property besides driving by and the property is being sold "as is".

Quote from @Greg R.:

What are the current lease agreements? My understanding is that it doesn't matter if a new owner comes in, you still have to honor the existing lease agreements. 


 The current tenants are month to month.

The current tenants are on a month to month lease