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All Forum Posts by: Jacob Sanders

Jacob Sanders has started 5 posts and replied 21 times.

Post: Buy and hold, MF, Albuquerque NM.

Jacob SandersPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • OR | WA | FL
  • Posts 21
  • Votes 17
Quote from @Adam Eckhoff:
Quote from @Jacob Sanders:
Quote from @Adam Eckhoff:

Hi Jacob, 

Congratulations on your investment. Could you expand a little more on why you decided to purchase this property? For example, what attracted you to this deal? What is the Cash-on-cash return? Why did you choose a buy and hold as opposed to the BRRRR Strategy?

Thanks,

Adam.

 @Adam Eckhoff I decided to purchase for a few key reasons:

1. **Affordability**: The property was reasonably priced at $470k, fitting within my budget and investment strategy.

2. **Quality of the Property**: The property itself is of good quality, requiring minimal immediate repairs and offering modern amenities that are attractive to tenants.

3. **Rental Income Potential**: The property generates a monthly rental income of $4475, ensuring a sustainable cash flow with an expected growth through yearly rental increases.

factors that made this deal attractive:

1. **Affordability and Quality**: The combination of an affordable purchase price and property quality was appealing.

2. **Moderate Rental Income**: With a monthly income of $4475, the property offers a fair return on investment with expectations for growth.

My Net Cash on Cash is 0.6% Not ideal but with yearly expectations for rental increases and equity growth, I will eventually get a good cash flow. Until then, I still have the capability to take a sizeable line of credit to which I can use for the mentioned BRRRR strategy

I chose the buy and hold strategy for several reasons:

1. **Immediate Cash Flow**: The property provides immediate rental income of $4475 per month, ensuring steady cash flow from the start.

2. **Stability and Predictability**: Buy and hold offers long-term stability and predictable income, aligning with my investment goals for consistent returns and tax benefits.

3. **Affordability and Quality**: Given the property's affordability and quality, there was no immediate need for the extensive renovations typically involved in the BRRRR strategy.

4. **Lower Risk**: The buy and hold approach carries lower risk compared to the BRRRR strategy,

5. **Time and Effort**: The buy and hold strategy is less time-intensive, allowing me to focus on managing and optimizing rental income rather than undertaking extensive renovations and refinancing processes.

That being said, I am interested in trying the BRRRR method in the future.

At the time of purchase, I lacked the skills and knowledge necessary to attempt the BRRRR method without exposing myself to risks I was not prepared for.

Hope that answered your questions. I wrote it up very quickly..


 Thank you for the speedy response, and yes, this answered my question. I only ask because im wondering whether i should "buy-and-hold" or keep my money in my index fund.

Thanks, and have a nice day!

 @Adam Eckhoff I personally prefer real estate over stocks because it gives a quicker return on cash in your pocket (unless you are a skilled day trader/options trader). Especially if you get good at the BRRRR method or flips! It really depends on what is most important to you. Money down the road from a historically steady 10% increase in stocks that you will pay taxes on to collect, or immediate cash flow with tax advantages and an annual appreciation of 3-5%.

Feel free to dm me if you would like to chat more on the subject 

Post: Buy and hold, MF, Albuquerque NM.

Jacob SandersPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • OR | WA | FL
  • Posts 21
  • Votes 17

@Adam Eckhoff

If you don't factor in property management expenses, then my cash on cash is 0.96%

Post: Buy and hold, MF, Albuquerque NM.

Jacob SandersPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • OR | WA | FL
  • Posts 21
  • Votes 17
Quote from @Adam Eckhoff:

Hi Jacob, 

Congratulations on your investment. Could you expand a little more on why you decided to purchase this property? For example, what attracted you to this deal? What is the Cash-on-cash return? Why did you choose a buy and hold as opposed to the BRRRR Strategy?

Thanks,

Adam.

 @Adam Eckhoff I decided to purchase for a few key reasons:

1. **Affordability**: The property was reasonably priced at $470k, fitting within my budget and investment strategy.

2. **Quality of the Property**: The property itself is of good quality, requiring minimal immediate repairs and offering modern amenities that are attractive to tenants.

3. **Rental Income Potential**: The property generates a monthly rental income of $4475, ensuring a sustainable cash flow with an expected growth through yearly rental increases.

factors that made this deal attractive:

1. **Affordability and Quality**: The combination of an affordable purchase price and property quality was appealing.

2. **Moderate Rental Income**: With a monthly income of $4475, the property offers a fair return on investment with expectations for growth.

My Net Cash on Cash is 0.6% Not ideal but with yearly expectations for rental increases and equity growth, I will eventually get a good cash flow. Until then, I still have the capability to take a sizeable line of credit to which I can use for the mentioned BRRRR strategy

I chose the buy and hold strategy for several reasons:

1. **Immediate Cash Flow**: The property provides immediate rental income of $4475 per month, ensuring steady cash flow from the start.

2. **Stability and Predictability**: Buy and hold offers long-term stability and predictable income, aligning with my investment goals for consistent returns and tax benefits.

3. **Affordability and Quality**: Given the property's affordability and quality, there was no immediate need for the extensive renovations typically involved in the BRRRR strategy.

4. **Lower Risk**: The buy and hold approach carries lower risk compared to the BRRRR strategy,

5. **Time and Effort**: The buy and hold strategy is less time-intensive, allowing me to focus on managing and optimizing rental income rather than undertaking extensive renovations and refinancing processes.

That being said, I am interested in trying the BRRRR method in the future.

At the time of purchase, I lacked the skills and knowledge necessary to attempt the BRRRR method without exposing myself to risks I was not prepared for.

Hope that answered your questions. I wrote it up very quickly..

Post: Buy and hold, MF, Albuquerque NM.

Jacob SandersPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • OR | WA | FL
  • Posts 21
  • Votes 17
Quote from @Justin Rowe:

Where in ABQ were you looking for your search and which neighborhood was this MF located?

 @Justin Rowe My main focus was to find a property with acceptable profit margins, and in a C- or better neighborhood, which at the time was challenging.

I ended up buying in the Alta Monte neighborhood.

Post: New Investor / JV opportunities

Jacob SandersPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • OR | WA | FL
  • Posts 21
  • Votes 17
Quote from @Jessica Taylor:
Quote from @Jacob Sanders:

Hi @Jessica Taylor,

I'm a member of the Central Florida Realty Investors Association (CFRI) and I think it has a lot to offer!

If you're interested, I can get you a free entry to one of our meetings.

Welcome to the world of realty, I wish you the best of luck!


 I would absolutely love at attend. 

I sent you a connection request! I'll send you the calendar when I get home tonight and we can figure out a day that works best.

Post: New Investor / JV opportunities

Jacob SandersPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • OR | WA | FL
  • Posts 21
  • Votes 17

Hi @Jessica Taylor,

I'm a member of the Central Florida Realty Investors Association (CFRI) and I think it has a lot to offer!

If you're interested, I can get you a free entry to one of our meetings.

Welcome to the world of realty, I wish you the best of luck!

Post: Hello BP Community!

Jacob SandersPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • OR | WA | FL
  • Posts 21
  • Votes 17

Hi @Landon Harless I appreciate your interest in diversifying and broadening your investment strategy. Are you seeking guidance from here, or are you primarily interested in networking?

Post: Should I sell rental

Jacob SandersPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • OR | WA | FL
  • Posts 21
  • Votes 17

@Ed Ma There is a lot of great advice here. I appreciate the insights on the 1031 exchange method. However, it's important to note that it functions as a deferral, meaning the taxes owed will be carried over to the next property. Therefore, if you choose to sell the subsequent property later on, you will ultimately be responsible for paying the taxes.

I would retain ownership of the property, continuing to generate rental income, while leveraging a second position loan to acquire additional investment properties. Subsequently, employing the 1031 exchange strategy once the 27.5-year tax benefit deduction period has elapsed.

- As I am not a finance expert, I urge you to conduct thorough due diligence in verifying this information.

Post: How is the Lake Nona/Orlando Market?

Jacob SandersPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • OR | WA | FL
  • Posts 21
  • Votes 17

@Flavia Vangelotti With your expressed concern for cash flow, I suggest considering a Debt-Service Coverage Ratio (DSCR) loan. This type of financing requires the projected income of the property, determined by a local expert, to sufficiently cover the monthly mortgage debt. This provides assurance of a stable investment. Additionally, satisfactory credit (typically 680+) and a down payment of at least 20% are typically required to qualify.

- I'm not an expert in lending, so please do your due diligence in verifying this information.

Rich dad poor dad is the reason I became an Investor/Realtor! I wish I listened to my teacher when he made us read it in highschool!

Post: How is the Lake Nona/Orlando Market?

Jacob SandersPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • OR | WA | FL
  • Posts 21
  • Votes 17
Quote from @Flavia Vangelotti:
Quote from @Shawn McCormick:

@Flavia Vangelotti Orlando is still a very good, appreciating market. Cash flow has been super tough for the past 3-4 years since prices jumped during COVID. Lake Nona is still a premier area and entry level price points are higher here than most anywhere in Orlando. Median prices are low to mid $400's, but in Lake Nona you are pushing $500. The retail is booming, the only downside IMO, is the infrastructure. The main road (narcoosee) lacks the ability to commute well if that is your main way in and out. The high school sits right on this road and so do all the big box stores and restaurants. But still a very sought after area.

There are exceptions to some communities a little South and East of Lake Nona and taper off a bit in Saint Cloud. So if you can trade off some cash flow subsidies for her, you will make it up in appreciation as there is still so much land there. 

As far as location, it is very sought after as it is is very close to the airport, easy access to the Space Coast on the 528, the 417 will take you right to Disney and downtown is just West on the 408. These are all toll roads, but easy drives. 

Hope this helps, let me know if I could help further.

Best of luck!

 This makes so much sense, thank you! I am thinking if we bought it for my mom it would be with the understanding that we wont make anything on it until we resell it in a few years, looking at rent in the area it wouldnt cash flow if we were to rent anything out with the current rates. @Jacob Sanders thank you also for your advice. I might be reaching back out to you both in the near future 

 @Flavia Vangelotti I'm glad we could help give you some insight!