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All Forum Posts by: Jackson Barr

Jackson Barr has started 5 posts and replied 27 times.

Thank you everybody for the responses. Perhaps most of you have misinterpreted the main point of the post. My intentions are not to come off as bragging or getting over on people in any type of unethical way. The main focus of my post was to inspire people who may have made irresponsible financial decisions in the past and to give them hope that even though you made mistakes it doesn't mean they cant be amended. Let me assure everybody that each and every debt I settled was agreed on by both parties, how you go about obtaining the agreement, however is irrelevant. 

 I am a bit confused as to how that would be considered unethical though? @Joe Fornasiero Basically what I was trying to say is mistakes are going to be made, how you correct them and move forward is what counts the most. Some people may call it karma, I see it as universal law, that what you put out is what you get back. My intentions were never to scam these companies or get one over on them, I made poor decisions with the money they offered. 7 years later I claimed that debt and negotiated my way to satisfactory settlements accumulated to roughly 30% of the total debt.

 Personally I admire the determination and perseverance it takes for someone to accomplish things so rarely seen being done by others. Regardless of the obstacles your faced with there is always a way out, of course many people may not agree with your approach but that's just their opinion!

Thank you to everyone who took the time to read and respond to this post, I am fairly new to REI and appreciate all feedback I receive. Best of luck to all

Jackson      

Determination is KEY! Just over 2 weeks ago I had an accumulated debt of over 18 grand. Most of it I accumulated through retail credit cards and small banking loans I had so easily been given right after my 18th birthday, like any typical teenager with thousands of dollars in "free" money at my disposal I went shopping! Of course, I had everything figured out first, I mean I was working tons of overtime at my job that paid $8.75 per hour, and all the disclosure forms stated that if I paid the balances off in 6 months I wouldn't have to pay any interest. WOW. what an awesome deal I thought, and hey even if I don't pay it off in that amount of time what's a little bit of interest going to hurt right? So, I start swiping, now my apartment that I just signed a 2-year lease on, has a brand new 65'' flat screen, PS3, laptop, I pod (new touch screen version of course) leather sofas, fancy dining set, the whole 9. And it gets better, Zale's even pre-approves me for 3.5k as well, so guess who has a brand new overpriced 10k gold necklace? Anyway, I'm sure you get the picture. I was 18 and living like a king. I worked hard and didn't hesitate to enjoy the fruits of my labor. Unfortunately, the fruits my labor was producing was more like rotten blueberries, I however was eating on Yubari melons! Then that little burden we so often forget about showed its face, you know that thing...LIFE. Well it happened and with it, all that lovely overtime was gone. But like I said I had it all figured out from the beginning, all I had to do is get a second job bussing tables or mowing lawns on the weekends and bingo problem solved. Too bad a week later the job itself was gone, right alongside the overtime it brought me. And now I have nothing figured out and since I didn't have a single dollar in savings I knew I was in trouble. Reluctantly I found employment within the first week, unfortunately I wouldn't be expecting a check for at least 2-3 weeks. And the checklist started, who to pay. And who to delay. Ultimately life's necessities came first and everything else was on delay, until eventual it was "oh well ill pay it off later when I'm doing good again". And off to collections my accounts went, along with the newly acquired cash cards I planned on using to get me out of the jam in the first place. So here I am 19 years old with tons of bills, no medical insurance an apartment with 12 months left on a lease and a part time job making minimum wage (DTI 90/10). My ship was sunk and I was submerged in debt.

Burdened by the thought that unless I filed bankruptcy, came up with $18k or waited a decade. I would never have the option to purchase a home, buy a vehicle or take out a personal loan etc. So, I decided from here on out I would have to buy everything in life with my hard-earned pre-taxed cash. Fortunately, we mature, get wiser and for some of us we are unwilling to let life dictate our destiny. So almost one year ago I made a goal to save up 10k and use it to start a business, invest, put it in a cd, something, anything but I better be ready. I told myself I'd rather be prepared for an opportunity then have an opportunity and not be prepared. (FYI that was before read Rich Dad) I exceeded my goal and ended up with a little over 12k in cash savings.

Then, roughly 9 months ago REI education consumed me, I knew I had found my calling. So, I formed a new goal and told myself that within 5 years I will turn this 10k into a Million! However, to do so I knew I would need much more then 10k, and started meeting with lenders, of course leaving the office with the same advice "settle this debt and well talk" And that's exactly what I set out to do.

How I did it:

•Requested my free annual CR from all 3 bureaus and established a budget at 7k to settle the total debt. I put all judgments filed against me 1st, Retail collections & eviction 2nd and all medical collections last (since typically most lenders will not hold medical claims against you for funding approval)

•Make sure you study each report diligently. Noting: original balances & creditor. Current debt holder. Last report date and expected removal date. (that info will help with negotiations)

•I requested to always speak directly with a manager (remember the collectors only have so much room to negotiate) go to the source, typically there hard to reach, so call back every 10 minutes if you must, eventually you will be put through with the right person! Start your offer at 20%, explain to them your draining your entire saving just to do "what's right" and that your able to pay immediately, if they up the % but it’s still in your budget tell them you will have to call back once are able to save up the rest, if the account is old...they'll take your initial offer. If the collection is fairly new, call back later that day and tell them it’s a deal!

•Always request the proposed settlement in writing first via email or USPS

•Once you have confirmation in writing have your debit card handy and propose a slightly lower amount (depending on the age of the account of course) if you have them at 50% and requested the 20% find an excuse and offer say 30% inform them you have your debit card in hand if they bite great if not repeat the process of call back blah blah. FYI (they'll bite)

To sum this up if you are a good negotiator and are willing to stop at nothing to get what you want do the work yourself and avoid the attorneys, consolidators and other scammers. I assure you it is not difficult but will require tremendous effort. I am 25 years old and just beginning my REI journey I have no college background or unique skills, just pure determination. And with that after a mere 14 days of due diligence and complete persistence, I was able to relinquish myself of $18,675 of debt with only $5.5k. Once the bureaus are updated with the account satisfactions I will be on my way to obtaining over 6 figures in financing. And then the fun will begin!

IF YOU WANT IT BAD ENOUGH, GET IT!!!

Post: Fortune Builders 3 Day Real Estate Workshop

Jackson BarrPosted
  • Roseville, MI
  • Posts 27
  • Votes 16

@JJ Natteri Thank you for the response, fortunately for me all sales pitches regarding their programs will go in one ear and out the other, since I have by no means the funds available to even consider purchasing the programs. However I'm still very optimistic about attending I feel the dedication and discipline it takes to sit through 36 hours of talking is a priceless value and an essential necessity in all aspects of business. Thanks again for the response, I will be sure to update this thread after I attend this weekend!!

Post: Fortune Builders 3 Day Real Estate Workshop

Jackson BarrPosted
  • Roseville, MI
  • Posts 27
  • Votes 16

@Scott Northridge Thank you!! finally someone who has answered my question DIRECTLY! I will be attending the work shop this weekend myself, I am very much so looking forward to learning all that I can. I never once felt that for $200 a 3 day work shop would not be worth the money. Thanks again for the feed back its greatly appreciated!

Best,

Jackson

Post: Fortune Builders 3 Day Real Estate Workshop

Jackson BarrPosted
  • Roseville, MI
  • Posts 27
  • Votes 16

@Chenelle Tucker Thank you for the detailed opinion. I am very excited to experience this workshop for myself and learn as much as possible. I will be sure to update this thread after I attend the event, at this time I do not have a partner so I offered my spare ticket to a realtor I met on BP who has already helped me significantly in the beginning stages of my journey. I'm looking forward to having him accompany me during the workshop, so between the two of us I'm sure we will be able acquire some great knowledge. Thank you again for the response! :)

Jackson

Post: Fortune Builders 3 Day Real Estate Workshop

Jackson BarrPosted
  • Roseville, MI
  • Posts 27
  • Votes 16

@Andrew Johnson Thank you for the insight. I am pretty much on the same page, I attended the free 2 hour class knowing they had something for sale. However I purchased the tickets for $200 reminding myself that education is priceless and if I can obtain just one new piece of information it is worth the investment. But yes I am a realistic thinker and understand what there primary concerns are... their MONEY. Yet again nothing ventured nothing gained!

Although I appreciate the comments from everyone my direct question was "has anyone PERSONALLY attended this class? and if so what was there opinion of it" I have yet to get a response regarding that direct question. No worries though I will soon enough see for myself.

Post: Fortune Builders 3 Day Real Estate Workshop

Jackson BarrPosted
  • Roseville, MI
  • Posts 27
  • Votes 16

Okay Bigger Pockets friends, I recently purchased my ticket to the Fortune Builders 3 day work shop. I wanted to reach out to my BP community and ask if anyone has personally attended this event, if so what was your overall opinion? The event is April 7th-9th so a little insight as to what I have to look forward too, in regards to attending this course would be greatly appreciated!   

Can you guys suggest any referrals or websites that can lead me in that direction? 

Anyone with advice or information on different types of lending agencies please send it my way, I am having a hard time finding lenders that will consider financing someone with a low credit score (610). I know there has to be a way around this issue. So please, inform me.

Post: if you had 10k how would you invest it?

Jackson BarrPosted
  • Roseville, MI
  • Posts 27
  • Votes 16

@DeAnthony Barrett If this is a question regarding your current position, I'm happy to inform you that I am also working with similar funds which raised the same question for me. Thus far I have established a rough strategy based off things I've learned on BP and numerous other REI resources. My suggestion would first be to EDUCATE!!! you don't have to become a guru but defiantly understand the arena. Second, build a relationship with a trusted REA they will help guide you in your search, direct you towards lenders and help you understand the markets. Contact multiple lending agencies and find out your options once you have that information start crunching the numbers, you can use the BP calculators which are great. I am also a beginner and I find them very simple to use and understand. Once you follow through with those steps, I'm certain you will have a much better idea on how to invest your 10k. Best of luck!

P.S be patient*