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All Forum Posts by: Jack Landry

Jack Landry has started 4 posts and replied 12 times.

Post: West Palm Beach Networking

Jack LandryPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Jupiter, FL
  • Posts 12
  • Votes 10
Originally posted by @Jon Huber:

@Caleb Hojara  We meet every month in Delray still. Let's connect.


Hi Jon, would love to get the details here too - I'm up in Jupiter looking for an investment in North/West Palm Beach. Thanks!

Post: West Palm Beach Networking

Jack LandryPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Jupiter, FL
  • Posts 12
  • Votes 10
Originally posted by @Josh Macallister:

Hey, I host a local meetup in Palm Beach Gardens every first Saturday and my next event is this Saturday the 2nd and i will have David Dweck speaking about how to make the most money in todays market and ways to save what you make. The information is in the events page, reach out if you want more info. Thank you, Look forward to seeing you this weekend.

Hi Josh, chances this event is still occuring?  Would love to get the details if so - I'm up in Jupiter looking for an investment in North/West Palm Beach.  Thanks!

Post: New Smyrna Beach, Florida

Jack LandryPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Jupiter, FL
  • Posts 12
  • Votes 10

Hi all,

I am interested in buying a primary residence to turn into an investment in New Smyrna Beach, Florida.

* Looking to gain some location insight into the best strategies and neighborhoods in this area.

Important to note I will only be spending half of the year in Florida. My thought is to house hack (SFH or multi) with long term renters or run short term rentals out of the property (condo) when I am not there. I am more inclined to the SFH as a long term rental to start because it would require less time to operate.

What strategy works best in this location? Does anyone have any other location insight to share regarding NSB?

Thanks in advance.

Post: Owner-Occupied Loan Limitations

Jack LandryPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Jupiter, FL
  • Posts 12
  • Votes 10

Hi all, I am looking for some information regarding owner-occupied loans.  

Situation: 

I purchase a property in state A with low-money down owner-occupied conventional.

I decide to move to a new state, state B (because my job is remote).  Can I now purchase a property in state B with an owner-occupied loan if I decide to make this my new residence?

What are the contingencies, restrictions, legalities here?

Thanks in advance.

Post: Advice on House Hacking in San Diego, CA

Jack LandryPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Jupiter, FL
  • Posts 12
  • Votes 10
Originally posted by @Dan H.:
Originally posted by @Wasam Hawari:

Hi BP SD Community, I am an investor moving from Sacramento, CA to San Diego, CA for work. Instead of renting, I was looking into house hacking a Multi-Family property (rent one unit out and live in the other). I prefer to rent by unit as I am not a fan of renting by room. My questions are; is it possible to find a Multi-Family property at a decent price that would make it more affordable to house hack than rent? If so, what areas should I start looking into. I appreciate the advice and help!

My own view is most MF purchases in San Diego would be initially cheaper to rent than purchase when allocating for all expenses (PITI, maintenance/cap ex, PM costs, vacancy, miscellaneous). The key word is initially. Another way to look at this is that I believe most MF purchases are initially cash flow negative when allocating for all expenses. There are some properties that do project positive cash flow with conservative pro forma, but they are rare. Check any pro forma estimates provided against the 50% rule to see if the difference can be justified. I will add maintenance/cap ex cost in San Diego is high.

Does this imply that I think house hacking is not a good idea in San Diego. It does not. I believe it is one of the smarter long term investments. The high LTV results in even low appreciation producing outstanding returns. Pre-COVID, rents were going up average of over $100/month per year for at least the previous 6 years (2020 had very modest rent increase). This means that if you were renting, your living expense would be increasing. It also means that if you were renting a unit out, your revenue would be increasing. Add in equity paydown and tax benefits and house hacking is likely to be a great long-term investment.

Notice, I consistently use the term long-term.  Assuming the property you purchase is not going to have good initial cash flow (it will likely have negative initial cash flow using my pro forma numbers) implies that it takes time to produce OK cash flow and more time to produce good cash flow.  If you are planning to sell in less than 5 years, it is my view that house hacking is too risky. This is because 1) while San Diego has outstanding long term appreciation in the shorter term there have been numerous flat or down cycles 2) Selling costs will consume some of the profit.  Between 5 and 10 years has some risk.  Note the only time that 10 years would not have been sufficient to produce a good return is if you purchased near the market high prior to the Great Recession.  It is very unlikely that a 10 year hold will not produce a good return in San Diego.

I think house hacking is a great idea if you are planning on holding 10 years or longer.  Historically this would have virtually always produced outstanding return.

I do want to add one last item.  Buy and hold RE is not passive.  It takes time and effort even with the use of a Property Manager.

Good luck

 @Corey Joyner following

Post: San Diego: Best Entry Strategy

Jack LandryPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Jupiter, FL
  • Posts 12
  • Votes 10

@Darcy Reynolds, @Rafael Ramon - thank you both for your insight, I will be reaching out!

Post: San Diego: Best Entry Strategy

Jack LandryPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Jupiter, FL
  • Posts 12
  • Votes 10

@Marc Rice appreciate your thoughtful input.

From what I have seen a true BRRRR or an ADU addition are not in my budget in this expensive market.

If you could shed some light on how you would go about finding a local lender who is able to finance a 1% down deal that would be great, as I have not seen that nor heard of anyone locally who has done so either. What are your favorite resources for finding lenders who offers this non-traditional financing opportunities?

Thanks again.

Post: San Diego: Best Entry Strategy

Jack LandryPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Jupiter, FL
  • Posts 12
  • Votes 10

Hi all,

I am currently living in San Diego and looking to begin my real estate investing journey.

My ultimate goal is to build a portfolio that enables financial freedom through real estate. Regardless of the vehicle, SFH, multifamily, or other, my goal is to build a large portfolio of doors.

That being said, I am trying to find the best vehicle to get started in San Diego that will best enable me to grow this portfolio with speed.  
Building a portfolio of one property in 5 years is not something I would consider a personal win.

I intend on using an owner-occupied FHA loan to house hack the first property. Down payment and closing costs considered, I am looking to deploy $40k - $50k maximum as an initial investment.

The potential exit strategies I see are:

1) 1-5 year exit: after living in the property for 2 of 5 years, sell to capitalize on capital gains tax exclusion on up to $250k.  This would be dependent on property appreciation during this period, but appears to be a good strategy to utilize tax free gains to fund a next purchase.

2) Long-term hold: if market conditions are not primed for a sale, a long-term hold is a safe option so long as the property is able to cash flow or break even in the long-term.

3) 1031: would consider

Potential Strategies, Pros + Cons

First, what I am not considering: SFH BRRRR or SFH ADU - time and capital requirements are something I do not have. Not considering out of state at the moment because I am going to use my residence as an investment and want to be in San Diego.

Here are the potential strategies I am considering, and what I see as the potential pros and cons.

I want to note that I was prior convinced that a duplex with value add opportunity was my best option, but further consideration has brought me to this post.  I am also aware that building long term wealth is more related to equity building and not cash flow, and that negative cash flow situations are not necessarily a reason to say 'No' to an investment.  

1) Duplex.  I have been convinced that this is the best option primarily on the idea that I can acquire multiple doors (poor reasoning).

     CON: Most expensive entry point, requiring my maximum initial investment limit.  

CON: Initial negative cash flow, coming out of pocket to cover monthly expenses. With rent appreciation, full PITI payment by tenants seem achievable in the near term. However, when you factor in CAPEX and maintenance (running each at 5% now), and property management after I am out of the property, I haven't been able to see a situation where the property even closes in on breakeven. If true, coverage for these expenses comes from my own pocket, thus restricting me from using this capital for another investment, and hindering the goal of growth with speed. Now it appears as if I am forced to continue to "fund" this property until I can refinance out into a conventional loan at 10-20% equity, which on a $700k-%800k property, will take a number of years (I am estimating 4-5 years to have 20% equity with a purchase price of $800k and LTV of 96.5%). I am afraid of being sidelined to this one property for 4-5 years because of the amount of cash it appears it will eat up.

2) SFH.

     PRO: may provide a slightly lower entry point than a duplex.     

CON: Single family home does not appear to be a valid option if renting as a single family home because of the lower rental income it will generate. This means using personal cash to cover expenses (CAPEX, maintenance, property management). Covering SFH PITI with rental income, rented as a family home, seems a bit more challenging as compared to a duplex.

POTENTIAL: renting by the room or using a short term rental (STR) strategy may make this a more valid option. I have not spent much time exploring the STR realm but have heard good regarding cash flow, and bad regarding maintenance and time.

3) Condo.

CON: HOA. This is what initially pushed me away from considering this option completely.

PRO: entry point is ~50% less than the other two options. Less money needed for CAPEX and maintenance reserves. More personal funds available to deploy into a next investment.

POTENTIAL: STR seems like it could be a large cash producer, covering all monthly fees and generating cash that could be used to fund other investments. Renting on a traditional yearly lease could likely cover PITI + HOA if not immediately, in the short term.

That being said, I would appreciate advice regarding your agreement or disagreement with any points above.  Also, specifically:

1) What do you think is the best entry point to 1) maximize my capital 2) enable future growth and scaling?

2) What do you think about the idea of 'value add' being a necessary criteria?  I have been convinced thus far that being able to force appreciation through rehab is a worthwhile play, but would love to hear input and reasoning for why/why not.

Thank you in advance for reading and your shared insight!

Best,

Jack

Post: Kickstart into real estate investing

Jack LandryPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Jupiter, FL
  • Posts 12
  • Votes 10

@Twana Rasoul thanks for your insight on this post, I am preparing for a duplex myself in the coming months. Besides taking a higher interest rate on the loan, are there other options to reduce the closing costs? I am currently planning to use an owner-occupied FHA at 3.5% down.

Thanks in advance!

Post: Condo BRRRR, San Diego

Jack LandryPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Jupiter, FL
  • Posts 12
  • Votes 10

@Maxwell Ventura thank you for your insight, like you mentioned I think the rehab becomes essential with this type of investment. I also see the historical appreciation of San Diego as offering a long term hold strategy in a worst case situation were the property to depreciate at some point in time, give I have already added some sweat equity to the property.