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All Forum Posts by: Michael O.

Michael O. has started 1 posts and replied 4 times.

Post: First Time Investor Looking for Advice

Michael O.Posted
  • Northridge, CA
  • Posts 4
  • Votes 0
Originally posted by Nate Gelinas:
Originally posted by Michael O.:
Originally posted by Scott W.:
ignore the 2% rule. that's for very very small properties. just pay attention to the 50% rule (40% if you don't hir a property manager).

I was going to self manage the property - in that case it would be $3100 rent - $1240 (40%) - $1368 (mort pmt) = $492/mo x 12 = $5904

$5904 / $75000 = 7.8%

Does that make more sense?

Also, do you ever factor total return (e.g. include principal paydown, property appreciation, depreciation benefit) in evaluating total return?

I know that this would represent a combination of cash/non-cash returns, but in a scenario like this should if be considered if i am earning an estimated 7.8% cash on cash?

One final question, given that this property is zoned for three units - is there any back of the envelope method of estimating the cost of adding an additional unit?

7.8% CoC seems really low. For example one property I am looking at right now is estimated to be 15% on the extreme low end, and 33% on the higher end.

Does the CoC return vary by location through?

Post: First Time Investor Looking for Advice

Michael O.Posted
  • Northridge, CA
  • Posts 4
  • Votes 0
Originally posted by Scott W.:
ignore the 2% rule. that's for very very small properties. just pay attention to the 50% rule (40% if you don't hir a property manager).

I was going to self manage the property - in that case it would be $3100 rent - $1240 (40%) - $1368 (mort pmt) = $492/mo x 12 = $5904

$5904 / $75000 = 7.8%

Does that make more sense?

Also, do you ever factor total return (e.g. include principal paydown, property appreciation, depreciation benefit) in evaluating total return?

I know that this would represent a combination of cash/non-cash returns, but in a scenario like this should if be considered if i am earning an estimated 7.8% cash on cash?

One final question, given that this property is zoned for three units - is there any back of the envelope method of estimating the cost of adding an additional unit?

Post: First Time Investor Looking for Advice

Michael O.Posted
  • Northridge, CA
  • Posts 4
  • Votes 0
Originally posted by Scott W.:
what's your monthly princiapl & interest payment?

$1368

Post: First Time Investor Looking for Advice

Michael O.Posted
  • Northridge, CA
  • Posts 4
  • Votes 0

I am looking for advice on a potential first time investment property. I am located in the Los Angeles, CA area.

The property that I am looking at is a duplex (zoned for three units - third unit could be built in the future), with the main unit (4 bedrooms, 2 baths) currently owner occupied and a separate detached unit (2 bedrooms, 1 bath) currently renting for 1300/mo.

The property price is $375,000 (will place $75,000 or 20% down)
Mortgage with taxes: $1,837
Current stated operating expenses (excluding tax): $280/mo

The front unit should rent for between $1700 - 1800/mo

Total projected monthly rent - $3100
Total projected monthly expenses - ($2120)
Total monthly cash flow - $980

Am I missing anything in my calculations? What sort of additional due dilligence should I perform?

Also, these properties are subject to Los Angeles rent control should that make me wary of this property?

Thank you for your help in advance.