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Post: Is a lender with a lower interest rate always the way to go?

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Originally posted by @Bill Gulley:
No, let's just call it a sophisticated bait and switch!
Many mortgage operations use two words to describe what they do:
"Mortgage" and "Services"
There is always a cost to both functions, often you don't get one without the other.
If you want to talk to a recorded message or some college kid getting through school or a lady who use to sell shoes, try the lower rate. If you value expertise, personal assistance, knowledge and professionalism you may have to pay a bit more. :)
Alright, so I'm not the only one who thinks this way then. I just talked to my broker again and he said he can get me the 4% today and maybe lower if he get's regional involved. I think I will take the 4% and run.
Post: Is a lender with a lower interest rate always the way to go?

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Dag nab it my broker said rates are higher this morning. Yet somehow AIMloan is lower than last week...?
Post: Is a lender with a lower interest rate always the way to go?

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Interesting replies, yes I have considered just eating the cost and not worrying about it since I want the house more. AIMLOAN did come down to 3.75% today though so I have emailed my broker asking if the rates came down since we last spoke. If I can get it under 4% from him I'd def. go with him.
At a 3.75% rate we are talking about 25K over the life of the loan.
Post: Is a lender with a lower interest rate always the way to go?

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Paid cash for my first house then financed my last two with the same broker. Right now he can get me 4% while Sebonic claims they can get me 3.7%. Their reputation is meh, though. As an alternative, I could get 3.87 from AIMLOAN, however; is it worth it?
It's a 483K purchase. It's about 14K difference over the life of the loan. So I ask, is it worth it switching lenders?
One thing I like about my broker is he is very knowledgeable and he answers the phone. I've even been in a bind on the weekend needing a pre-approval letter to go along with an offer and he was on vacation out of state and hooked me up in minutes. Part of me wants the lower interest rate, but part of me wants the guy who I know has gotten it done without problems in the past and is available to me as my lending expert damn near 24/7.
Post: I suspect tenant has moved two other people in

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Originally posted by @Brandon McCombs:
The opinions only considered part of the equation though. They disregarded the legitimate reasons for needing to inquire about the mystery truck.
I see 3 reasons for needing to ensure the mystery person is or is not using that unit as his/her permanent residence alongside the signed tenant:
- Criminal -> eviction
- Add'l wear and tear -> rent must go up
- If the signed tenant leaves and the other person stays behind they aren't on the lease -> no legal recourse.
Yeah, they seem to be caught up on some liberal argument of "live and let live in her house" and "she has a right to enjoy the property and have live there other than her" and "you're going to lose a great tenant due to enforcing rules they agreed to abide by and are a big financial risk to you if not enforced".
No, she doesn't have a right to move other people in there without going through the agreed through process, it is a violation of the lease terms that are set forth in the WA State Attorney General recommended lease agreement, and the legal risks are what concern me. I have no problem with her having someone live there as long as they meet MY standards on the BGC, and sign the lease.
That's it. Something so simple, yet so difficult for many "investors" to understand. You seem to mistakenly think I'm somehow depriving her of her right to have someone live there folks. I'm not as I've explained over and over again. Instead I'm met with ridiculous comments about how I should just post up outside and track their every move. I was merely looking for advice on how to best determine what's going on, and I've since realized that I can just ask the neighbors who I have contact info for. Sheesh...
Look at this post by @Rhett Tullis
This is the kind of stuff I worry about having some unknown person living there. But according to the logic of some, I shouldn't do a check on him and get him on the lease. Doing so is depriving him of his "rights". Wow...
https://www.biggerpockets.com/forums/52/topics/133962-tenants-bf-has-apparently-moved-in-unannounced
Post: I suspect tenant has moved two other people in

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Originally posted by @Michael Noto:
does she pay the rent on time? Does she take good care of the property? Are her guests disrupting other tenants? These are important to consider before you make a big deal out of this.
When you rent to a single mom you have to assume there will be boyfriends either living there or staying over frequently. It's sort of just how it goes in most cases.
Dude, again, why is it wrong to put him on the lease after a background check? Do you not understand the difference? I'm not saying she can't have a live in boyfriend. I am saying I want to find out if that is the case and get him to fill out an app, pass a bgc, and get on the lease, you know, like how she agreed to do so if it ever came up, on the lease that she signed. Not that difficult to understand. Sweet Jesus if this is the level of advice that comes out of BP, thanks but no thanks...
Post: I suspect tenant has moved two other people in

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Originally posted by @Nicole A.:
It sounds like you already knew the answer to your own question, but more are just looking for supporting opinion.
From how you wrote your post, it seems like you're over-reacting a bit....driving by the property multiple times to see what cars are there. Don't you have better ways to spend your time?
How is this tenant otherwise? In the 3+ months she's been there, has she paid rent on time? Have you seen the inside since then and it's well taken care of?
Also, as has been mentioned, if you plan to evict or charge money over this and end up in court, it'll be difficult to prove without doubt. And when you tell her that you're watching her and noticing the cars--and she's an otherwise great tenant--you're going to lose that great tenant over silliness.
You make a lot of assumptions and evidently didn't read the thread completely. I asked if I should drive by there during a specific time frame to see if that was the best way to go about identifying unauthorized occupants so I can get them checked out if they are in fact living there. I later posted after the onslaught of poorly thought out advice that I have the neighbors contact info and can just find out from them, without having to go down there.
And you assume she is a great tenant, even though I've noted that I've had problems with her already, even on the day of the move in and that she is on a MTM lease, no eviction necessary, only 20 days notice to vacate.
The only silliness (thanks for the insult) here is people like you with a clear lack of reading comprehension, poor understanding of the legal risks, and low critical thinking skills giving advice, and your only argument to the obvious risks I pointed out is straw man attacks accusing me of sitting outside the house and keeping a record of all comings and goings and that I'm some how going to lose a tenant over enforcing a lease term that is a big risk to me financially. So I shouldn't enforce anything at all, because people auto magically move out when you do? lol
Again, wanting to find out who is living in MY house that she is RENTING under the terms of the LEASE AGREEMENT isn't depriving her of her right to enjoy the house. Not that hard to understand.
Again, if I don't check out other occupants living there, why bother having checks and leases at all?
Again, how does enforcing an important term of my lease and offering to get the occupants on the lease deprive her of her right to enjoy the property? Perhaps try to answer those things instead of hurling insults for things you clearly don't understand.
Post: I suspect tenant has moved two other people in

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Originally posted by @Brandon McCombs:
- @Mike Cumbie I think you may be going to the extreme here. I have a feeling Jack isn't planning a full on interrogation. He will politely find out who the person is who owns the truck. He has a vested interest in verifying whether the person is living in his unit because the person could be a criminal for all he knows, which is a scenario you are ignoring. If anything, the way I see it is add'l occupants cause more wear and tear on a unit and therefore the rent should increase if the person is an add'l permanent resident.
Straw man argument is what he posts. But I'm a bad guy for wanting to find out if someone else has moved in against the terms of the lease and wanting to get them checked out and get them on the lease. Instead I should burry my head in the sand and not do any checks on anyone at all, live and let live. Because inquiring as to a serious violation and offering to get anyone living there on the lease is denying her of her right to life. Thanks Mike, I've really learned a lot today...
Post: Getting out of rentals to avoid liability?

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Real estate, leveraged real estate, especially bought at the bottom of the market in a high equity growth area, can make one very wealthy very quickly. I made most of my money in my career, but a significant amount in real estate as well in the past five years which have been good to stock and real estate markets alike.
That said, once you've made your money, and the Cash on Cash returns drop to the point that you can get the same return (as a result of property appreciation) or nearly the same return in a REIT index fund, wouldn't that be better? Less risk, more diversification, same returns, and much much less exposure to liability.
I'm not one of these people who thinks it won't happen to him. I was sued once for a car accident that wasn't even my fault. While everyone told the truth on the scene, the guy who rear ended me with an 18 wheeler and pushed me into the car in front of me changed his tune after the fact. The person in front of me sued me AND him, claiming I hit them first, then he hit me into them again. It turned into a 2 YEAR legal battle. My insurance company refused to pay them anything which is why I got served with a lawsuit instead. My insurance company said it was extremely obvious that they were lying as their stories constantly changed.
They even told me in 2 years the only story that never changed was mine. There was damage to either one of their vehicles an SUV and a Semi Truck, since my car was plastic and they had solid steel bumpers on both of them. My car however, was trashed, crushed like a pop can and I was in the hospital. They walked away with no injuries or damage to their vehicles, then deny fault/sue me. Yep...
Luckily the Cop who did the report remembered the accident and between that and the police report, along with the guy who hit me agreeing to come clean if I signed an affidavit for him because she was starting to make up stories about him coming out of his truck and physically attacking her! Not aggravated enough yet? She was an illegal immigrant with no drivers license, and she got to sue me and the guy who rear ended me. In the end it thousands in attorneys fees for my insurance company. I ended up getting a settlement from the guy who hit me and the suit against me was dismissed while it continued with against him.
I worry that being in real estate exposes me to too much liability. It's too easy for someone to take your money over some frivolous thing, all aided by the liberal justice system (take from those who earned it and give it to those who didn't, for BS things). Think I'm wrong? My friends mom borrowed a ladder from her neighbor. She fell off the ladder climbing on the roof and sued her neighbor, winning a 250K settlement. It's that easy folks...I can't imagine all the ways a tenant can "slip and fall" and get a large payout...
Post: The Occupants from Hell!

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I only read the first and last pages of this thread, but WOW. Between the fact that my returns have come down to about what I could get with a REIT index fund since the property price has appreciated significantly, and this kind of crap in an increasingly liberal political environment, I'm really wondering if I wouldn't be dodging an eventual bullet by getting out now. Less time, less risk, more diversification, for the same return. It's starting to look more and more attractive.