Triad NC Rental Property Package, Buy Together or Cherry Pick!!
Gross rent: $3,075 Rental potential: $4,000+
1415 Long St, Burlington, NC: • Current rent: 525 • Rental Potential: $765 • 3 bed 1 bath • 975 sqft
1121 Easton Rd, Greensboro NC: • Current Rent:500 • Rental Potential: $780 • 3 bed 1 bath • 940 sqft
1119 Easton Rd, Greensboro NC: • Current Rate: $575• 2 bed 1 bath • 600sqft
1112 Sykes Ave. Greensboro, NC (House + DUPLEX)
Current rent rate: $500 3 bed 1 bath
Duplex A: $448/month • Rental potential: 500 • 2 bed 1 bath
Duplex B: $500/month • Rental potential: 500 • 1 bed 1 bath
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1119 Easton Rd:
For showings and inquiries contact Semaj Anderson (864-367-1010)
Gross Rent: 3,048 Rental Comps: 4000+
1112 Sykes ave: Rental Comps: 780 (Duplex attached to Sykes ave) Duplex A: 2 bed 1 bath Rent= 112/wk Duplex B: 1 bed 1 bath Rent= 500
1415 long st. Burlington, NC: 3 bed 1 bath 975 sq ft. Rent= 525 Rental Comp= 765
1121 Easton rd. Greensboro, NC: 3 bed 1 bath 940 sq ft. Rent= 500 Rental Comp= 780
1119 Easton rd Greensboro, NC: 2 bed 1 bath 600 sq ft. Rent= 575 Rental comp= 575
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** For showings & inquires reach out via Phone: (336-847-8317)
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I logged on to my local MLS today and noticed a new message with an attachment from the US Dept of Housing and Urban Development (HUD) that speaks (in general) about how almost 1/3 of the US population has a criminal record, how minorities represent a disproportionately large percentage of this "criminal population", and by having a policy or practice that restricts housing based on having a criminal record indirectly violates the Fair Housing Act without a legally sufficient justification for the denial.
Has anyone else here seen or been notified of this HUD change? What effect, if any, will this have on the tenant application approval/denial process for landlords? Will landlords now be in violation of Fair Housing by continuing with business as usual? I'll post an excerpt from the document below. Find the entire document here.
U.S. DEPARTMENT OF HOUSING AND URBAN DEVELOPMENT
WASHINGTON, DC 20410-0500
April 4, 2016
Office of General Counsel Guidance on Application of Fair Housing Act Standards to the Use of Criminal Records by Providers of Housing and Real Estate-Related Transactions
I. Introduction
The Fair Housing Act (or Act) prohibits discrimination in the sale, rental, or financing of dwellings and in other housing-related activities on the basis of race, color, religion, sex, disability, familial status or national origin.1 HUD's Office of General Counsel issues this guidance concerning how the Fair Housing Act applies to the use of criminal history by providers or operators of housing and real-estate related transactions. Specifically, this guidance addresses how the discriminatory effects and disparate treatment methods of proof apply in Fair Housing Act cases in which a housing provider justifies an adverse housing action – such as a refusal to rent or renew a lease – based on an individual's criminal history.
II. Background
As many as 100 million U.S. adults – or nearly one-third of the population – have a criminal record of some sort.2 The United States prison population of 2.2 million adults is by far the largest in the world.3 As of 2012, the United States accounted for only about five percent of the world’s population, yet almost one quarter of the world’s prisoners were held in American prisons.4 Since 2004, an average of over 650,000 individuals have been released annually from federal and state prisons,5 and over 95 percent of current inmates will be released at some point.
When individuals are released from prisons and jails, their ability to access safe, secure and affordable housing is critical to their successful reentry to society. Yet many formerly incarcerated individuals, as well as individuals who were convicted but not incarcerated, encounter significant barriers to securing housing, including public and other federally-subsidized housing, because of their criminal history. In some cases, even individuals who were arrested but not convicted face difficulty in securing housing based on their prior arrest.
Across the United States, African Americans and Hispanics are arrested, convicted and incarcerated at rates disproportionate to their share of the general population. Consequently, criminal records-based barriers to housing are likely to have a disproportionate impact on minority home seekers. While having a criminal record is not a protected characteristic under the Fair Housing Act, criminal history-based restrictions on housing opportunities violate the Act if, without justification, their burden falls more often on renters or other housing market participants of one race or national origin over another (i.e., discriminatory effects liability). Additionally, intentional discrimination in violation of the Act occurs if a housing provider treats individuals with comparable criminal history differently because of their race, national origin or other protected characteristic (i.e., disparate treatment liability).
III. Discriminatory Effects Liability and Use of Criminal History to Make Housing Decisions
A housing provider violates the Fair Housing Act when the provider’s policy or practice has an unjustified discriminatory effect, even when the provider had no intent to discriminate.
Under this standard, a facially-neutral policy or practice that has a discriminatory effect violates the Act if it is not supported by a legally sufficient justification. Thus, where a policy or practice that restricts access to housing on the basis of criminal history has a disparate impact on individuals of a particular race, national origin, or other protected class, such policy or practice is unlawful under the Fair Housing Act if it is not necessary to serve a substantial, legitimate, nondiscriminatory interest of the housing provider, or if such interest could be served by another practice that has a less discriminatory effect. Discriminatory effects liability is assessed under a three-step burden-shifting standard requiring a fact-specific analysis. The following sections discuss the three steps used to analyze claims that a housing provider’s use of criminal history to deny housing opportunities results in a discriminatory effect in violation of the Act. As explained in Section IV, below, a different analytical framework is used to evaluate claims of intentional discrimination.
A. Evaluating Whether the Criminal History Policy or Practice Has a Discriminatory Effect In the first step of the analysis, a plaintiff (or HUD in an administrative adjudication) must prove that the criminal history policy has a discriminatory effect, that is, that the policy results in a disparate impact on a group of persons because of their race or national origin. This burden is satisfied by presenting evidence proving that the challenged practice actually or predictably results in a disparate impact. Whether national or local statistical evidence should be used to evaluate a discriminatory effects claim at the first step of the analysis depends on the nature of the claim alleged and the facts of that case. While state or local statistics should be presented where available and appropriate based on a housing provider's market area or other facts particular to a given case, national statistics on racial and ethnic disparities in the criminal justice system may be used where, for example, state or local statistics are not readily available and there is no reason to believe they would differ markedly from the national statistics. National statistics provide grounds for HUD to investigate complaints challenging criminal history policies. Nationally, racial and ethnic minorities face disproportionately high rates of arrest and incarceration. For example, in 2013, African Americans were arrested at a rate more than double their proportion of the general population. Moreover, in 2014, African Americans comprised approximately 36 percent of the total prison population in the United States, but only about 12 percent of the country's total population. In other words, African Americans were incarcerated at a rate nearly three times their proportion of the general population. Hispanics were similarly incarcerated at a rate disproportionate to their share of the general population, with Hispanic individuals comprising approximately 22 percent of the prison population, but only about 17 percent of the total U.S. population. In contrast, non-Hispanic Whites comprised approximately 62 percent of the total U.S. population but only about 34 percent of the prison population in 2014. Across all age groups, the imprisonment rates for African American males is almost six times greater than for White males, and for Hispanic males, it is over twice that for non-Hispanic White males. Additional evidence, such as applicant data, tenant files, census demographic data and localized criminal justice data, may be relevant in determining whether local statistics are consistent with national statistics and whether there is reasonable cause to believe that the challenged policy or practice causes a disparate impact. Whether in the context of an investigation or administrative enforcement action by HUD or private litigation, a housing provider may offer evidence to refute the claim that its policy or practice causes a disparate impact on one or more protected classes. Regardless of the data used, determining whether a policy or practice results in a disparate impact is ultimately a fact-specific and case-specific inquiry.
B. Evaluating Whether the Challenged Policy or Practice is Necessary to Achieve a Substantial, Legitimate, Nondiscriminatory Interest In the second step of the discriminatory effects analysis, the burden shifts to the housing provider to prove that the challenged policy or practice is justified – that is, that it is necessary to achieve a substantial, legitimate, nondiscriminatory interest of the provider. The interest proffered by the housing provider may not be hypothetical or speculative, meaning the housing provider must be able to provide evidence proving both that the housing provider has a substantial, legitimate, nondiscriminatory interest supporting the challenged policy and that the challenged policy actually achieves that interest. Although the specific interest(s) that underlie a criminal history policy or practice will no doubt vary from case to case, some landlords and property managers have asserted the protection of other residents and their property as the reason for such policies or practices. Ensuring resident safety and protecting property are often considered to be among the fundamental responsibilities of a housing provider, and courts may consider such interests to be both substantial and legitimate, assuming they are the actual reasons for the policy or practice. A housing provider must, however, be able to prove through reliable evidence that its policy or practice of making housing decisions based on criminal history actually assists in protecting resident safety and/or property. Bald assertions based on generalizations or stereotypes that any individual with an arrest or conviction record poses a greater risk than any individual without such a record are not sufficient to satisfy this burden.
1. Exclusions Because of Prior Arrest A housing provider with a policy or practice of excluding individuals because of one or more prior arrests (without any conviction) cannot satisfy its burden of showing that such policy or practice is necessary to achieve a substantial, legitimate, nondiscriminatory interest. As the Supreme Court has recognized, “[t]he mere fact that a man has been arrested has very little, if any, probative value in showing that he has engaged in any misconduct. An arrest shows nothing more than that someone probably suspected the person apprehended of an offense.” Because arrest records do not constitute proof of past unlawful conduct and are often incomplete (e.g., by failing to indicate whether the individual was prosecuted, convicted, or acquitted), the fact of an arrest is not a reliable basis upon which to assess the potential risk to resident safety or property posed by a particular individual. For that reason, a housing provider who denies housing to persons on the basis of arrests not resulting in conviction cannot prove that the exclusion actually assists in protecting resident safety and/or property.
Analogously, in the employment context, the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission has explained that barring applicants from employment on the basis of arrests not resulting in conviction is not consistent with business necessity under Title VII because the fact of an arrest does not establish that criminal conduct occurred.
2. Exclusions Because of Prior Conviction In most instances, a record of conviction (as opposed to an arrest) will serve as sufficient evidence to prove that an individual engaged in criminal conduct.But housing providers that apply a policy or practice that excludes persons with prior convictions must still be able to prove that such policy or practice is necessary to achieve a substantial, legitimate, nondiscriminatory interest. A housing provider that imposes a blanket prohibition on any person with any conviction record – no matter when the conviction occurred, what the underlying conduct entailed, or what the convicted person has done since then – will be unable to meet this burden. One federal court of appeals held that such a blanket ban violated Title VII, stating that it “could not conceive of any business necessity that would automatically place every individual convicted of any offense, except a minor traffic offense, in the permanent ranks of the unemployed.”
Although the defendant-employer in that case had proffered a number of theft and safety-related justifications for the policy, the court rejected such justifications as “not empirically validated.” A housing provider with a more tailored policy or practice that excludes individuals with only certain types of convictions must still prove that its policy is necessary to serve a “substantial, legitimate, nondiscriminatory interest.” To do this, a housing provider must show that its policy accurately distinguishes between criminal conduct that indicates a demonstrable risk to resident safety and/or property and criminal conduct that does not.
A policy or practice that fails to take into account the nature and severity of an individual’s conviction is unlikely to satisfy this standard. Similarly, a policy or practice that does not consider the amount of time that has passed since the criminal conduct occurred is unlikely to satisfy this standard, especially in light of criminological research showing that, over time, the likelihood that a person with a prior criminal record will engage in additional criminal conduct decreases until it approximates the likelihood that a person with no criminal history will commit an offense. Accordingly, a policy or practice that fails to consider the nature, severity, and recency of criminal conduct is unlikely to be proven necessary to serve a “substantial, legitimate, nondiscriminatory interest” of the provider. The determination of whether any particular criminal history-based restriction on housing satisfies step two of the discriminatory effects standard must be made on a case-by-case basis.
C. Evaluating Whether There Is a Less Discriminatory Alternative
The third step of the discriminatory effects analysis is applicable only if a housing provider successfully proves that its criminal history policy or practice is necessary to achieve its substantial, legitimate, nondiscriminatory interest. In the third step, the burden shifts back to the plaintiff or HUD to prove that such interest could be served by another practice that has a less discriminatory effect.36 Although the identification of a less discriminatory alternative will depend on the particulars of the criminal history policy or practice under challenge, individualized assessment of relevant mitigating information beyond that contained in an individual's criminal record is likely to have a less discriminatory effect than categorical exclusions that do not take such additional information into account. Relevant individualized evidence might include: the facts or circumstances surrounding the criminal conduct; the age of the individual at the time of the conduct; evidence that the individual has maintained a good tenant history before and/or after the conviction or conduct; and evidence of rehabilitation efforts. By delaying consideration of criminal history until after an individual's financial and other qualifications are verified, a housing provider may be able to minimize any additional costs that such individualized assessment might add to the applicant screening process.
Statutory Exemption from Fair Housing Act Liability for Exclusion Because of Illegal Manufacture or Distribution of a Controlled Substance Section 807(b)(4) of the Fair Housing Act provides that the Act does not prohibit “conduct against a person because such person has been convicted … of the illegal manufacture or distribution of a controlled substance as defined in section 102 of the Controlled Substances Act (21 U.S.C. 802).”37 Accordingly, a housing provider will not be liable under the Act for excluding individuals because they have been convicted of one or more of the specified drug crimes, regardless of any discriminatory effect that may result from such a policy. Limitation. Section 807(b)(4) only applies to disparate impact claims based on the denial of housing due to the person’s conviction for drug manufacturing or distribution; it does not provide a defense to disparate impact claims alleging that a policy or practice denies housing because of the person’s arrest for such offenses. Similarly, the exemption is limited to disparate impact claims based on drug manufacturing or distribution convictions, and does not provide a defense to disparate impact claims based on other drug-related convictions, such as the denial of housing due to a person’s conviction for drug possession.
Hi John,
Welcome to BP! I'm also from the Upstate SC area (Anderson and Greenville). I'm always looking to network with other investors in the area. I'll reach out to you in a message. Again, welcome!
My minimum deal standard is to net $100/door/month cashflow after all financing, taxes, management, and maintenance costs. My numbers tell me that this property will accomplish this for me with a lot of the similar figures that you provided in your post. THANKS for that last note as well, I never thought about leveraging my status as a good tenant. AWESOME suggestion! I'll tread lightly though.
I've considered the owner carry option as well, not in much detail however. I'll look into this more throughly as it may be very viable. Some of my first deals were structured with creative financing well seller carryback. I can't believe I gave up on it soon. Will revisit, thanks for your input as well.
@Account Closed
Thanks for your thoughts. Its good to know that my landlord won't potentially ignore an offer to purchase from a tenant.
Thanks for your insights. I love to hear the numbers! All this talk of taxes pushed me to go back and look at the numbers for my property. The taxes on this property as a non-owner occupant have ballooned this year to about $2400($200/month) this year (compared to $1500 in 2012). This appears to be mostly related to the 20%+ increase in market value the county has tagged on to this property from the previous year. Comps do not support this assessment. I pray you guys are doing well in the Summerville market, I grew up nearby. The market for tenants in the military is still strong in that area. If you ever look to pick up a few properties in the Upstate of SC, I'd be happy assist. Thanks again.
@Adam Roberts Thank you for the response. The deferred maintenance to the property includes, but is not limited to, roof damage/leaks/roof replacement ($4.5k), deck repair ($1.5k, gutter replacement ($1k), landscaping & tree work ($1k), carpet replacement ($500), and kitchen/bathroom repairs/upgrades ($3.5k). I've budgeted for between $12k-$15k in deferred maintenance issues to address over time following a purchase.
The current landlords do not appear to be the quintessential buy and hold RE investor, as it seems this property was rental that was acquired via an inheritance. That being said, I do not know if an offer from me would meet their exit strategy, assuming one exists.
My thoughts exactly Sean. Those are the ARVs in the area, what I would pay for the property wouldn't be north of $90k. What are your thoughts, would you be open to receiving an offer from one of your tenants? Thanks.
I'm currently 18 months (1 year lease, 6 months on month-to-month) into a SF lease. I've never missed/been late on a payment and we've taken very good care of the property as it were my own (probably better than any tenant before hand as well). I've been wholesaling but I'm now interested in purchasing a property of my own as a landlord. I've considered purchasing a multifamily to live in and rent out the other unit(s), but that won't work for my young, growing family.
I've recently considered reaching out to my current long distance landlords to make an offer to purchase the property I currently lease. They've made comments leading me to believe they have been upset with the current property management company and seems like they would fit the mold of a potentially motivated seller. The property is in a fantastic area where rents are typically $1000-$1200/month for a typical 3/2. ARV's for this property are around $135k-$160k. There's some deferred maintenance on the property as well. If purchased, I'd hold it for a 6-9 months until we're able to find another house that's larger for my family to live in, then add this property as the first to my portfolio.
My question is, as a landlord/investor, what would be the general thoughts when receiving an offer to purchase a property from your tenant? Any insight would be welcomed. Thanks.
I'm currently 18 months (1 year lease, 6 months on month-to-month) into a SF lease. I've never missed/been late on a payment and we've taken very good care of the property as it were my own (probably better than any tenant before hand as well). I've been wholesaling but I'm now interested in purchasing a property of my own as a landlord. I've considered purchasing a multifamily to live in and rent out the other unit(s), but that won't work for my young, growing family.
I've recently considered reaching out to my current long distance landlords to make an offer to purchase the property I currently lease. They've made comments leading me to believe they have been upset with the current property management company and seems like they would fit the mold of a potentially motivated seller. The property is in a fantastic area where rents are typically $1000-$1200/month for a typical 3/2. ARV's for this property are around $135k-$160k. There's some deferred maintenance on the property as well. If purchased, I'd hold it for a 6-9 months until we're able to find another house that's larger for my family to live in, then add this property as the first to my portfolio.
My question is, as a landlord/investor, what would be the general thoughts when receiving an offer to purchase a property from your tenant? Any insight would be welcomed. Thanks.