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All Forum Posts by: Irwin Haddox

Irwin Haddox has started 5 posts and replied 24 times.

Post: My lawyer says wholesaling is illegal. Quote Below

Irwin HaddoxPosted
  • Delaware City, DE
  • Posts 25
  • Votes 13

Its not my property though. Wholesaling not flipping. 

Post: My lawyer says wholesaling is illegal. Quote Below

Irwin HaddoxPosted
  • Delaware City, DE
  • Posts 25
  • Votes 13

"Irwin,

I've spent some time thinking about your proposed business model and, also, doing some research and, taking a conservative approach, have concluded that you would be selling real estate and therefore would be subject to real estate sales licensing laws. When you sign a contract to purchase property, you acquire an equitable interest in the property and it is that equitable interest, that is, the right to compel conveyance of the legal [or record] title that you are selling, even if you state you are just assigning a contract right. Under the real estate brokers' law, Title 24, Chapter 29 of the Delaware Code, a person who provides real estate services must be licensed. The statute provides that "real estate services shall also include the marketing and advertising of properties for sale". That is how you are going to find your buyers.

I know this is not the answer you were looking for but you did indicate you want to stay out of trouble."

Now how do I proceed? Do I need a brokers license or a real estate agent license? What are your thoughts?

Post: Finding an attorney the hardest part?

Irwin HaddoxPosted
  • Delaware City, DE
  • Posts 25
  • Votes 13
Originally posted by @Cody L.:

Meet and Bret with people doing the same thing as you are (you should do this anyway). Ask who they use.

Meeting people doing class C multifamily in houston was likely the best thing that happened to me for growth. And they've become good friends. But when I needed an attorney (or anything) a simple email would get my answer

I posted in wholesale area of bigger pockets. Where else do I meet people? REI clubs charge 150 dollars to talk to people. Unless I can just walk in I suppose. Any better ideas?

Post: Finding an attorney the hardest part?

Irwin HaddoxPosted
  • Delaware City, DE
  • Posts 25
  • Votes 13

I don't really have any money to get started in buy and hold so wholesaling is all I have right now. 

Post: Finding an attorney the hardest part?

Irwin HaddoxPosted
  • Delaware City, DE
  • Posts 25
  • Votes 13

I have some contracts I have put together from samples I found on bigger pockets and elsewhere but I want them reviewed by a professional lawyer with wholesale experience before I use them.   

Every lawyer I call does not even know about assigning real estate contracts to cash buyers in exchange for a assignment fee. They have 0 experience in it because none of them were involved in this kind of transaction apparently. I have called around 20 lawyers so far.

Has this been the same for you? How did you select a lawyer to review your contracts?

Post: Tools for knowing rental prices in the market

Irwin HaddoxPosted
  • Delaware City, DE
  • Posts 25
  • Votes 13

I found this tool here https://www.huduser.gov/portal/datasets/fmr.html I wanted to know if anyone used it or if its accurate. What other tools do you use to know how much rents are going for?

Post: Who's pay's $1,300 for rent?

Irwin HaddoxPosted
  • Delaware City, DE
  • Posts 25
  • Votes 13
Originally posted by @David Krulac:

@Irwin Haddox

For a typical 3 br rents in Pa. are around $1,250, some more, some less. 4brs rents are higher and we've rented 4 br SFH for as much as $2,050. One tenant we have in a high priced rental has 2 out of state properties that were former personal residences that they can't sell. Due to already having 2 mortgages other places they can't get a 3rd mortgage and buy at this time.

You can find out the Fair Market Rent for your area or any area in the country by going to a HUD website, www.HUDuser.org

That is the average rent figures compiled by survey of actual rents, so you can see what average rents are.

For New Castle County:

eff     $845

1br    $1003

2br    $1211

3br    $1515

4 br   $1686

This tool is awesome assuming I can get a property management company to confirm the round about estimates provided on huduser.org this is very valuable. With 1,300 top line I can borrow money form a lender and still start making 6% CAP rate today like RIGHT NOW!

Post: Rental investments: I don't see the math working out

Irwin HaddoxPosted
  • Delaware City, DE
  • Posts 25
  • Votes 13

Thank you all for the very insightful info. What I learned so far is that I was doing the cap rate wrong its about 100/mo profit with cap rate of around 10% not bad but i can do better. I don't need to budget that much for evictions and I don't need to have a investment property in my area if im going to be hands off anyway (even though it makes me more comfortable). My big concern now is how to get the money to get started. If I do bank loans to finance the 20% down I would need to pay them back around 300/mo which makes the property negative cash flow. how do get started?

Post: Rental investments: I don't see the math working out

Irwin HaddoxPosted
  • Delaware City, DE
  • Posts 25
  • Votes 13

I was doing the cap rate wrong i would only put 20% down not pay the full amount in cash so the cap rate would be much higher.

Post: Who's pay's $1,300 for rent?

Irwin HaddoxPosted
  • Delaware City, DE
  • Posts 25
  • Votes 13
Originally posted by @Dan Mahoney:

$1,300/month renters are not necessarily being irrational.  Here are a few reasons:

1) Qualifying for a $1,300 rental is easier than qualifying for a $250,000 mortgage with a $1,300 payment. Mortgage lenders consider DTI, asset coverage, etc., but most landlords just consider rent to income. As you point out, both consider credit. (Yes, NYC is an exception to this and all other rules.) Also outside of some government supported programs (e.g, FHA, VA) most lenders want to see a substantial down payment, which is a huge barrier for people who live paycheck to paycheck.

2) There are lots of reasons one might need a place to live immediately (e.g., new job, divorce, starting school).  Even if one can qualify for a mortgage, a 60-90 day search-contract-close timeframe is simply not workable for a lot of people. 

3) Transaction costs of 5-10% on the buy and the sell (e.g., realtor, mortgage, attorney, tax) often make it more economical to rent if you aren't going to stay put for at least 5-10 years.  Most younger people aren't going to live in a house for 30+ years like their grandparents did.

4) Tax deductions for mortgage interest and property taxes only become interesting once you've reached a certain income level.  People that earn <$50k/yr don't pay much in income taxes.

 Wow thanks this is exactly what I wanted to know.