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All Forum Posts by: Irving Moorehead

Irving Moorehead has started 2 posts and replied 10 times.

Post: Pleeeeeeeease Help!!!!!![Calc Review] Help me analyze this deal

Irving Moorehead
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Quote from @Mark H. Porter:
Quote from @Irving Moorehead:

I will rehab and upgrade all of the units as well. 

Post: HELP Evaluate a multifamily

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Quote from @Jaryn Pierson:

Hey Irving,

I bought something quite similar not too long ago. Got lucky that a few of the residents decided to leave pretty quickly when the new landlord (me) showed up.  Was able to get those units rented at market value pretty quickly without too much repairs. At face value with the information you've given us this property is going to run negative in quite a big way for quite some time. Doesn't mean you shouldn't buy it, but i'd want a really strong battle plan in front of me of EXACTLY how this thing comes together over the next 12 months or so and I'd make sure I had all the cash PLUS SOME to make it all happen.  Last thing I'll add is that you want to make sure you are paying for the value of the property AS IS and not paying for what it will be worth after you fix it up / raise rents etc.


 Thanks for replying Jaryn. Everyone is on a month lease so it should be pretty easy to move current residents. Planning will be key and like you said I need to make sure I have plenty of reserves set aside. I want to make sure that I make a fair offer based on its current condition. I want to make that I'm netting at least a 10% profit after rehab. How do I get that number?  

Post: HELP Evaluate a multifamily

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Thanks I appreciate the feedback. The current owner purchased it in 2020. 5 out of 6 units are currently rented. Tenants are on a month to month. The current rents range from $450 (efficiency) $600 (1 BR). The current median rent rate in that area is $875. I've estimated $80k in rehab work to force equity and increase the rents. I want to offer $375k but no more than $400k for the property. It's hard finding comps because this was a 4 plex that was converted into a 6 plex.

Post: Pleeeeeeeease Help!!!!!![Calc Review] Help me analyze this deal

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Terrible deal


 Can you elaborate. I see potential if bought at the right price. Value can be added to increase rent.

Post: Pleeeeeeeease Help!!!!!![Calc Review] Help me analyze this deal

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Quote from @Mark H. Porter:

Irving - do you own other properties or have other income?  You would need it if doing this.

You’re going to be into this for $200+ before you’re netting what, a grand a month?  If this is your first property I would look elsewhere.


 Hi Mark! I do own 2 single family properties. This will be my first commercial offer. They're asking $500k. Rents currently total $2705. There's one vacancy. This is a 6 unit apartment building. I've been playing around with different potential offer amounts. I'd like to make an offer that I'm comfortable it. I"m anticipating budgeting $75,000 to rehab the building. My biggest expense is a new roof. That would help me increase the rent to current market rate and bring in $4,800 per month.   

Post: HELP Evaluate a multifamily

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Quote from @Joshua Christensen:

@Irving Moorehead

Have you looked at the tools section here on Bigger Pockets?  Evaluating a 6 unit is not much different than a duplex, other than 6 units.  You'll still be able to find sales comps.

Is the 6 unit a single building or is it 2 tri-plexes next door on separate parcels?  If it's 2 parcels, you may be able to do 2 conventional loans for the purchase.  Better yet, work on negotiating owner financing terms if available and set your own terms.

Know your current rents against projected rents and your current expenses against projected expenses. Know your improvement (CAPEX) money needed if any. Then look to see if it will cash flow to fit your portfolio goals.

Just because it falls into a "commercial" lending box, don't over complicate a small multi-family.  You can overthink it pretty fast.  When you start getting into 16/2-+ units, then you'll have more to consider, but for now, keep it simple.   


 Thanks for responding. It's one single building. They turned a 4 family into a 6 family. It's s legit 4 single BR and 2 efficiencies. I've done my research on the rents in the area. They're definitely priced below market. It's in need of some updates. I'm using the tools right now. I wasn't sure if I was I was putting in the correct information since I got a negative cash flow.  

Post: Pleeeeeeeease Help!!!!!![Calc Review] Help me analyze this deal

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@Irving Moorehead, Why would you even analyze this deal? Doesn't appear to be anywhere near close to positive cash-flow.

I have 2 comments that might bring it a little closer.

1) Garbage is listed as $252 per month which seems very high unless this is a large multi-family where you need a dumpster each month. 

2) Maintenance and Cap Ex would be fine at 5% of rent or $157/month each.


 This property is in the city of St. Louis where they provide trash service. The seller listed an annual cost of $3,024 for trash service. I just divided that number by 12. It’s a 6 family unit. 

In many places residential trash service will NOT be provided to commercial buildings. A building is "commercial if it has 5+ units. So, likely there is a separate trash service/dumpster that the owner is paying for but you could certainly ask about that to confirm.

 That make sense. I didn't think about that. Rents are definitely below market. Current monthly income is $3,155. I can increase rents and bring in $4,800 monthly. I can increase rents but I'll need make upgrades and replace the roof. I'm estimating about $40,000 in updates and rehab. I see potential but the numbers aren't making sense to me right now.

Post: Pleeeeeeeease Help!!!!!![Calc Review] Help me analyze this deal

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Quote from @Kevin Sobilo:

@Irving Moorehead, Why would you even analyze this deal? Doesn't appear to be anywhere near close to positive cash-flow.

I have 2 comments that might bring it a little closer.

1) Garbage is listed as $252 per month which seems very high unless this is a large multi-family where you need a dumpster each month. 

2) Maintenance and Cap Ex would be fine at 5% of rent or $157/month each.


 This property is in the city of St. Louis where they provide trash service. The seller listed an annual cost of $3,024 for trash service. I just divided that number by 12. It’s a 6 family unit. 

Post: Pleeeeeeeease Help!!!!!![Calc Review] Help me analyze this deal

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This is the property I need help with. 

View report

*This link comes directly from our calculators, based on information input by the member who posted.

Post: HELP Evaluate a multifamily

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Good morning, I've been a member of BP since May 2023 but I just upgraded to a pro membership today. I have a few single family and dupIex buildings. This will be my first commercial property if my bid is accepted. I need help evaluating a multifamily property (6 units). I'm in St Louis, MO. I've been working on this since yesterday but my numbers don't make sense. I'd like to make an offer before COB today.