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All Forum Posts by: Rob Street

Rob Street has started 1 posts and replied 3 times.

Post: Buying non-performing note of abandoned property

Rob StreetPosted
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I will explore the possibility of the Trustee's Deed with my lawyer and Trustee/Trustee's counsel. That seems a straight forward and seamless solution. Also, the bank is slow to do anything without the BK court's blessing so indication that they would ultimately issue said deed would likely calm the bank's jitters and nudge things along.

Thanks again for the great ideas.

I'll keep everyone posted...

Post: Buying non-performing note of abandoned property

Rob StreetPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
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Thank you all for your responses! Great information and much appreciated. I am finding this site to be a wealth of valuable information and feel fortunate to have found it.

So, I understand that purchase price of the note is irrelevant - the full value of the note is still the obligation and what would be due to me as the note owner. Since my ultimate goal is to acquire the property it seems that buying the note & foreclosing is a sound strategy in that I would then have the leverage to effectively lock other potential bidders out since no one in their right mind would bid up to the value of the note, which is more than twice what the property is currently worth.

I like the idea of quietly taking possession of the property via a deed-in-lieu but that would likely be difficult as the original owner is purposefully in absentia. He did some creative refinancing just before the real estate market fell apart, pocketed the cash and disappeared, apparently out of the US. The paper trail indicates he knew exactly what he was doing and never intended to make good on the note.

I spoke with the BK trustee's counsel and he said that if I were able to secure the note and prove that the property has no equity (easily done), the BK court would abandon the property, which would then allow me to proceed with the foreclosure. I deal with a BK attorney who would facilitate note purchase and navigation out of BK court.

I will only purchase the note at a a deep discount - repairs, market, what is unknown @ the property, etc., indicate anything other than a deeply discounted note purchase would be foolish.

A few more questions:
1) With the original owner out of the picture is there any way to proceed with a deed-in-lieu through the BK trustee/court in the original owners absence?

2) If no to the above and I need to proceed with the foreclosure, is there any state (CA) legislation or other bureaucratic barriers that would delay my ability to foreclose? It seems banks are routinely postponing or canceling foreclosures in California and I am concerned that underlying factors I am unaware of may affect me accordingly, leaving me in foreclosure limbo.

3) Is there any way the original owner could weasel his way back in to the property if I were to proceed with purchasing the note/foreclosing? Mortgage payments are delinquent for about 1.5 years but the original owner is real estate savvy and may possibly utilize any loophole available, perhaps through another party.

Thank you all again for your valuable input!

Post: Buying non-performing note of abandoned property

Rob StreetPosted
  • Real Estate Investor
  • Posts 6
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I am interested in buying a non-performing note of a property in California that is tied up in BK and has been abandoned for several months. Ultimately I would like to foreclose and acquire the property. The former owner (borrower) has left the country and is unlikely to dispute any foreclosure proceeding. The property has no equity (worth less than 50% of the first) and thus is of little interest to the BK trustee/court. There is no 2nd and some relatively small liens and tax default amounts involved.

Can someone on this forum please explain 'credit bid' and how that comes in to play at the foreclosure auction? How does the amount that I pay for the note affect the outcome? For example; if I pay $100k for a note of $300k and the property is worth $150k can I bid above what I paid for the note at auction (without adding any additional money) since the original note was for $300k?

Thanks for any input!