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All Forum Posts by: Grant Waugh

Grant Waugh has started 7 posts and replied 15 times.

Post: Short Sale Closing Costs

Grant Waugh
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  • Investor
  • Atlanta, GA
  • Posts 17
  • Votes 4

@Wayne Brooks Thanks for the reply. The contract didn't state half. The sellers closing cost contribution on the original contract was set at 3% of the purchase price. And I actually don't have an agent on my end. The seller's agent has been acting as my agent as well but she is not listed as my agent on the contract. I know this is not the topic of my original post, but is that strange?  Thanks

Post: Short Sale Closing Costs

Grant Waugh
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  • Investor
  • Atlanta, GA
  • Posts 17
  • Votes 4

Thanks @Minna Reid That's a great point. I am hoping that they just need to adjust the amount of the closing costs and are not going to ask me to pay the full costs.

Post: Short Sale Closing Costs

Grant Waugh
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  • Investor
  • Atlanta, GA
  • Posts 17
  • Votes 4

@Brett Goldsmith My understanding of the short sale agreement is that I only have to pay what the appraised value comes in at (as long as the bank approves the sale at this amount). If we agree that we split the closing costs, will the bank pay the seller's portion of the closing costs if needed? It sounds like that might be a no if they are wanting to change the closing costs agreement that was in the contract originally.

Post: Short Sale Closing Costs

Grant Waugh
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  • Investor
  • Atlanta, GA
  • Posts 17
  • Votes 4

Hey BP! I have my first RE offer in on a short sale and after a few months, it looks like the seller's bank may finally be approving the sale. I put in my offer at 103K and the seller's bank's appraisal came  in at 95K so that is what I will be paying as long as the bank approves the sale. The real estate agent is telling me the lender is changing the closing costs that I originally negotiated. I agreed to split the closing costs. I haven't heard from the agent what the change is but I am assuming that the lender is going to ask that I pay all of the closing costs. I feel like this may be their way of trying to get as much money out of me as possible since they are losing money on the house and now are receiving 8k less than my original offer. My question is, do I have any ground to stand on by holding firm that the seller (or bank I guess in this case) pay half of the closing costs, or is it likely that if I don't agree to pay the full cost, the bank will reject the sale and then either go to the next highest offer or foreclose on the house?

I don't want to pay the full closing costs if it can be avoided but like many places, it's a hot market here in Atlanta. I am eager to complete my first deal and don't want to lose the opportunity.

Thanks in advance.

Post: Advice on First Deal - Duplex

Grant Waugh
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  • Investor
  • Atlanta, GA
  • Posts 17
  • Votes 4

Hello everyone. I'm Grant from the ATL area and i have been wanting to get into REI for a few years but just got serious within the past month or two. I am at the point where I am ready to dive in. I had lunch with a friend who has been investing for over 10 years. We discussed partnering on deals in the future and right after we met, I found a potential listing and this may be my first property if it works out. I am seeking advice on a few different aspects of the deal. Mostly revolving around financing the deal.

The property is a duplex listed for 99K. Both units are currently rented out. I am awaiting final details but I understand that one unit has a year lease left and the other has two years left. My goal is to buy and hold the duplex and rent both units out or live in one of the units if necessary to acquire the best financing. Once the leases are up on one or both of the units I would remodel them to raise the rent potential

I have reached out to Navy Federal bank to get info on loans and they will me offer a few options:

FHA for 3.5% down

Conventional 30 year fixed with 5% down with no discount points or originations fees @ 4.625 %

or

Conventional 30 year fixed with 5% down + origination fee of .875 %  @ 4.25 %

Investment property loan 15 year fixed with 25% down @4.375 %

With the FHA loan i would need to occupy one of the units within 60 days to qualify. 

I also may have the potential for private money lending. I have a few resources available but I haven't reached out to them yet to make sure they are on board with the deal. I am also not sure what terms they would require for the deal as we have never discussed these in detail. One potential lender has been approached and verbally agreed to loan money in this situation.

I have the cash to cover the down payments on all of the loan options discussed but would rather use as little (or even no cash) of my own cash as possible. 

My questions are:

What is my best financing route here?

Is there a way of getting around the 60 day owner occupancy rule with the FHA loan? If not, is the investment property loan worth it?

Is it better to try to go for private money lending and use the cash to negotiate the seller down?

What kind of rate/deal is common with private money lenders for this situation?

What would be the difference between using private and bank financing in terms of the ability to negotiate the seller down? Wouldn't they get paid cash whether it's from the bank or a private investor?

Thanks in advance for any advice.