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All Forum Posts by: Joe Ward

Joe Ward has started 7 posts and replied 16 times.

Post: Anyone know a good leasing agent in Chicago-land subs??

Joe WardPosted
  • Investor
  • West Chicago, IL
  • Posts 22
  • Votes 1

Just wondering if anyone has any referrals for a good leasing agent in the Naperville area. I need someone who will list my properties, show them, and do all the proper background and information checks, etc. And that I can trust. Thanks in advance for any help.

Post: Was I MISLED?!?! Or does it still make sense to keep going???

Joe WardPosted
  • Investor
  • West Chicago, IL
  • Posts 22
  • Votes 1

Thank you Chack very good points and tips as well. Although this one is finished I am just debating on the next one.

Post: Was I MISLED?!?! Or does it still make sense to keep going???

Joe WardPosted
  • Investor
  • West Chicago, IL
  • Posts 22
  • Votes 1

Thank you again Jon for the quick and very detailed response. I will take all this into consideration and do some more research. I mainly just wanted to get into the game so bad already I figured it makes sense lets do it and I will learn some stuff and then start doing it by myself. So even if the first one or two are not the best deals in the world but they are ok atleast, and I'm learning a lot, then it's worth it to me. Myself and so many people I know just talk and talk and talk and never actually do so atleast I finally took the plunge. I do know that $1250 is average rent right now for these 4 bedroom single families because I have done some research. The main thing I have to do is go out and check out about 10 myself in the area and see what I'm getting on my own for $40-$70K and then compare it to what they offer me. Thank you again soo much for your help Jon, you are truely one solid dude. I will chime into you if I have any more questions.

Post: Your Favorite Smart Phone and How You Use It

Joe WardPosted
  • Investor
  • West Chicago, IL
  • Posts 22
  • Votes 1

iPhone is amazing. As said above don't know how to live without it at this point.

Post: Was I MISLED?!?! Or does it still make sense to keep going???

Joe WardPosted
  • Investor
  • West Chicago, IL
  • Posts 22
  • Votes 1

Tell me what you guys think. I met a guy who runs a kind of one stop shop for investers to buy, rehab and rent/hold single family homes. They:
-Find the houses
-Put together a report of what it costs me to buy and, what it will cost to rehab, what it will appraise at after rehabbed, what your new loan will be, what it will rent for and what your cash flow will be.
-They rehab and GC the projects
-They have tennant leasing to screen/rent it (first months rent is fee)
-They have banking connections if needed
-They will manage if needed for $75 a house per month (which I'm not doing at first)

Anyways seems like a good plan for a starter as they kind of handle everything. So here's my first deal.. Buy for $63,000 (cash) rehab for about $17,000 and they had the after rehab appraisal at $135,000, and said it will rent for $1250 a month. Then I would be able to get an 80% loan on the $135,000 and acually cash out on the deal. So I'm expecting to pull my 80k back out along with an additional 20K or so and still have equity in the property and still be able to cash flow a little while holding for future apreciation. Not a bad deal. And I had the banker ready to do the 80% to appraisal value loan as well. So basically here is where I'm at, rehab is done with the correct amount spent, renter is signing the lease for $1250 a month but here's where the problem is. It only appraised at $105,000. Which means the house is still appraising for more than I put in, say $82,500 in to $105,000 appraisal value, and I can still cash flow alright but it's not nearly as good as I was told it was going to be. I can't pull any additional money out of it, but I will be able to pull out 100% of what I put in at least. So basically for the time I have put in (which really wasn't much since they kind of did most of it) and no actual money left in the property since I will pull it back out. Basically with annual rental income of $15,000 and annual PITI of $10,800 less say one month of rent to be safe -1250 comes out to $3000 less another say $500 of misc. BS, I figure $2500 annual net cash flow to basically just be a landlord with none of my actual money in the property. As well as any principal pay down, and then of course taking advantage of a low market, and how much it will be worth in 10 years. Does this seem like a good investment to you guys to keep going? The only thing that really didn't go as planned was the $25,000 less appraised value I was banking on. This one is done so you can see it in black and white where it stands and they want me to jump on the next one which should be just about the same thing. I just like to hear your guys thoughts. I really like this guy but wonder if I need to start doing my own work to find the houses for closer to $50,000 myself in order for it to work better, but then lose all their support systems. What would you guys do if you were me???? THANK YOU IN ADVANCE!

Post: HEY FELLAS! WOULD YOU MAKE THIS DEAL???

Joe WardPosted
  • Investor
  • West Chicago, IL
  • Posts 22
  • Votes 1

Sorry brother, hope I didn't offend you. I'm from Chicago so I'm sure you understand what I mean. Thank you for the tip, you guys are great and all probably saved my ***.

Post: HEY FELLAS! WOULD YOU MAKE THIS DEAL???

Joe WardPosted
  • Investor
  • West Chicago, IL
  • Posts 22
  • Votes 1

Wow thanks for the Reply, Especially the detail on your Jon. How do I back out? I signed a contract with the real estate agent back in Sept to pay $300,000 if accepted. I have also signed and filled out all forms with the lender and am finally at the point where everything is about done! Right now I have NO money out, no earnest money even, accept the $500 I spent on the appraisal. I can call my lawyer tomorrow but do you guys have any ideas???

Post: HEY FELLAS! WOULD YOU MAKE THIS DEAL???

Joe WardPosted
  • Investor
  • West Chicago, IL
  • Posts 22
  • Votes 1

Hey guys, just wanted a your opinions if you guys would jump on this deal or walk. I am a new investor, right now I have one other single family home that I just finished re-habbing and renting. It worked out pretty good cashed out a bit and still have a little cash flow per month along with 20% equity, but anyways that's not what this is about.

This is about a nice 3-flat in Elmwood park which in a nice "basically all white" italian suburb just outside of Chicago. I put my offer in on it as a short sale for $300,000 and won it. Last time the building sold was in 2006 for $519,000 which I know is besides the point and seems quite over inflated, but I figured I would throw it in. It is fully rented right now with gross rents of $3,000 monthly or $36000 annually. I may be able to raise rents a little but then again maybe I shouldn't. I have just finished jumping through 1,000 hoops and finally am good on my loan. It appraised at $295,000 and am good for a 75% loan of that number at 6.125%. So I figured my total PITI is about $2025 monthly or $24,275 annually. I am guessing (remember I am new at this) my water, vacancy, maintenance and misc labor to be about $425 monthly or about $5000 anually (although I know some of this is speculative). So basically what do you guys think? I mean I will basically be out of pocket about $80,000 or so which the money isn't a problem I still have more to invest in other real estate. I mean the annual cash flow doesn't seem that great on the $80,000 maybe 8% annual return on investment. But then I am also considering my principal pay down per year and mainly banking on this sucker appreciating back to at least $400,000 over the next 5 or 6 years. Anyways any help would be great. I should be closing at the end of the month if I go through with it which I am planning as of right now. Thanks fellas for your input and suggestions. Please feel free to ask anything I may have left out. THANKS!!!

Post: Is 20% down the best I can do on an owner occupied 3-flat loan??

Joe WardPosted
  • Investor
  • West Chicago, IL
  • Posts 22
  • Votes 1

I am about to put in a couple offers on some short sale 3-flat buildings. I am working it as an "owner occupied" loan even though that is not going to be the actual case. I would've preferred to put down about 10-15% but my banker says that even if they do grant me this a an owner occupied loan, since it is a 3-flat you have to put down 20% no matter what. If it was a SFH it would be different but in this case 20% is the minimum. I live in the Chicagoland area and am working with Chase. I am just curious if others have heard of this 20% minimum down on a 3-flat rule? Thanks..Joe

Thanks Tim I will keep in touch with you when I get back from vacation Monday if you don't mind. I'm sure I will have a few questions you could help point me in the right direction on. Thanks again everyone