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All Forum Posts by: Zach Oehlman

Zach Oehlman has started 1 posts and replied 29 times.

Post: The Gold Standard Doesn't Matter - Prove Me Wrong And I Will Pay You

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Quote from @Greg Scott:

Watched the video.  Seemed to me you've taken monetary logic and stood it on its head, mostly because you did!

If gold IS money, then the first scenario is much better for you.  The 1 ounce of gold you saved went from being able to buy one house to being able to buy 2 houses.  The overly-simplistic example made it sound like gold went down in value when actually it was the opposite.

That said, Nixon proved your point that the gold standard is irrelevant.  He printed more dollars than the government had gold.  When other countries tried to redeem that gold, he was forced to take the dollar off the gold standard.  So, yes, the gold standard does not matter.  What matters is the fiscal discipline to manage your currency properly.


 Thanks for taking the time to watch the video and comment my friend! There is so much "misinformation" out there that it is hard for people to get to the true reality of what works and what doesn't. Have an amazing day!

Post: The Gold Standard Doesn't Matter - Prove Me Wrong And I Will Pay You

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Lets have a conversation :) 

I have been racking my brain on this topic and feel I have finally come to a "proverbial truth" around money and value and would love to hear everyone's point of view as I want to dis-prove what I currently think...

And...

I have yet to disprove it.

So I am looking for some help to look at it from as many directions as possible so I can feel confident in what I am saying.

I created a video on my Bigger Pockets Blog to help share my idea and would love your feedback.

FYI - there is no external links to my private website or anything like that.

I am literally just looking to have some fun and challenging conversations with some fellow investors.

So lets keep it fun :)

Here is the link to my video on my Bigger Pockets Blog: https://www.biggerpockets.com/...

Looking forward to all of the conversation!

Post: Inner-City Investing: What am I missing?

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Quote from @Justin Thind:
Quote from @Zach Oehlman:

Congrats on your first deal @Justin Thind!

And here is my opinion based on my personal experience.

I invested in my first rental properties in the south Chicago suburbs with very similar economics / pricing / rental rates / etc. 

I bougtht a $30,000 house that had had rents in the $1,100 - $1,200 range and taxes of $3K.

Over the next year I bought 8 more properties in places like Posen, South Holland, Riverdale, Sauk Village, etc.

And I will never do it again based on my personal experience.

The numbers looked great on paper but here is what you can't see on paper and only experience can show you.

1). Properties managers will make or break you and most property managers race to the bottom in price to get people's business and can't afford to operate at scale. This creates a challenge for you because the asset performance is only as good as your manager. 

2). Repairs cost the same no matter what the price of the home costs. Just because the house is cheap doesn't mean the repairs will be cheap. 

3). You need to look at the social economic development in the area. There is a reason the houses are priced the way they are priced in any market - that is why they call it "the market". The lure of a cheap property looks like a deal but if it was they would be flying off the shelf. I don't know the economic area you are pertaining to but I do know the "lense" you are looking through as I thought the same thing when I first got started.

4). Charging $1,200 a month in rent and collecting $1,200 a month in rent is two different things. I had tenants that were amazing and I had tenants that lived in my homes for a year without paying rent becuase they "knew the system" and we literally couldn't do anything about it. This comes back to poor property management but also local and state laws play into account. Local and state officials don't always understand economics / finance and make laws that are counterintuitive to creating economic development in an area and what ultimatly happens is the money leaves because the system doesn't work. You need to look at the economics in the area and see is it on the upswing, stable, or down swing.

And....

With all of this being said I know people who crush it in areas like this but they have boots on the ground and operate at large scale. They have their own property management team, own contractors, own leasing team, etc. so they control the entire supply chain.

Take a step back and understand the bigger picture and ask your self where do you see yourself in 5 - 10 years and then get started in that direction. If that means owning a large portfolio of properties in this area then do it....if not start with something that aligns with where you want to ultimately be.


 Really good stuff, thanks Zach. From an economic standpoint, the area is pretty high value. It's 4 miles south of the GM's Warren HQ, as well as a new Amazon Warehouse, a Chrysler plant, and several other factories. I also do think there's one property manager that I would feel comfortable with, thanks to a few phone calls with them + testimonials from people I was connected with.

The positives seem to end there with this particular house, though. People in the thread above (especially Travis) did a good job pointing out just how mistaken I was about the "turnkey" status of this house. Even with the duct work up top, I just assumed "Oh I'll pay someone a couple grand to nicely tuck it away" and didn't think about the implications of why it's like that to begin with.

So it seems like the takeaways from this thread are that it's not a bad plan to invest in cheaper houses in selective Detroit neighborhoods, but you better have a good property manager and you better be comfortable with the house (or budget appropriately if you know its in bad shape).


 I love and agree with your takeaways! Great job on doing your due dilegence before just hoping into something and "figuring it out" :)

Post: Estate Planning tax question

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@Zach Oehlman

I appreciate the kind words concerning my father-in-law. He's definitely a very kind man who is amazed that he's accumulated all that he has. Thank you also for the details on the direction to inquire concerning a trust and other avenues. At this time, I'm not suggesting professionals to them, but rather overall concepts to inquire about at their upcoming appointment. This definitely helps.


 Excellent, let us know if you need anything else :)

I see this question a lot and think it is far more to understand that the risk of a second position.

Somethings to consider are:

1). What is the value of the home and the value of all of the debt in front of it. For example, if the home value is $500K and the total of all of the debt in front of it is only $100K then it has a much different risk profile than if it has $400K worth of debt in front of it.

2). What is the personal financial position of the person you are lending to? Are they responsible around their life and personal finances? If so, it has a much different risk profile than someone who is always robbing Peter to pay Paul. 

3). What is their experience in real estate / business / life? I see a lot of successful people get their "lunch" served to them in real estate. They have success in one part of their life and think that translates to real estate. In some instances it does and others it doesn't. I also know very experienced individuals that have a lifetime of experience but poorly manage their affairs. Their paperwork is sloppy, they don't use title, they don't use professional service firms to make sure things are setup properly, etc. This is a sign to me that there will be trouble ahead.

4). What is their track record? Do they have references or anything that helps you understand how they performed in the past?

I know this sounds like a lot to analyze for a "simple loan" but I can personally tell you horror story after horror story after helping thousands of individuals over the last 12 years. 

You want to learn how to underwrite a deal / person correctly and eventually you will understand it and will be able to do it quickly and in a way that mitigates risk for you.

We had the exact same question with our personal residence near Sedona Arizona.

And...

We went high end and finished it out in a way that made us happy. 

The logic was we wanted to feel like it was our home (because it was) and we also knew the other local properties lacked this high end feel. 

Being near Sedona we knew that people would pay the higher price if it had the experience / value so we did it.

The other homes on the market are around $150 / $180 and vacant and we opened our fist month making almost $8K+. We are delivering a superior experience and the money is willing to pay it. 

We have  been traveling the world and personally know we will pay for more if they can deliver so we knew it would work and it did.

Somethings to consider is:

1). Is it in an area that has higher income demand for it? We are close to Sedona and there is a large demand for people visiting and wanting to get out of the heat of the Phoenix area.

2). Do you have a great property manager? We found a high end property manager who handles the property like it was their own which makes all of the difference.

Hope this helps.

Cheers to your success!

Post: Questions about condo boards

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My experience from running a large group of over 1,000 investors is....

Control the board or stay away.

Any time we loose control of an aspect of our business it increases the risk. Know the risk going into the deal is a determining factor and if you feel it is still a good deal that can change it.

For example, if you are getting a great deal on it then that could be a reason to move forward.

One thing I see very few people discuss is the opportunity cost of time / money when making a decision like this.

Whenever you are making  a financial decision you always need to compare and contrast it with other options and then make the best risk adjusted decision.

Does it out perform other options?

Is it have less risk than other options?

Cheers to you and your future sucess my friend!

Post: The moving goal post

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Congrats on all your success @Erich Henson :)

And I have had similar experiences with success in all aspects of my life and have learned this...

It is human nature to get somewhere and be disapointed. 

The saying "it is about the journey not the destination" is so true and can only be experienced once you personally experience achieving a large goal.

What I have found works for me is to work on my internal / emotional happiness and not just my bank account.

We were literally talking about this last night with world famous people who are very wealthy. The discussion based around making money to buy the food, coaches, education, time, experiences, conversations, etc that will allow us to grow in our personal development aspect but the money isn't what buys the happiness. It buys the resources for us to grow which brings happiness.

I hope this helps my friend :) 

Hello @Charles Schram :)

I would take a moment to fully understand their real concern and at the end of the day you have to let the numbers guide you to your decision. If you think it is a deal with 20% down and have it then do it or adjust terms to make up return somewhere else.

If the numbers don't make sense then it comes to negotiating.

I would really question him getting 5% in the bank as that is unheard of from my perspective.

I would also really stress that you are technically putting in more than 20% down if you are putting $300K into the property. If you can get him to see this and then get him to understand how that is actually better for him than getting 20% down you should be good.

I have found that most people don't really understand finance / accounting / technical jargon and you need to be able to explain it at a 3rd grade level for them to really "get it". Try breaking it down to a 3rd grader level and see if that works. Use actual numbers and walk him through the logic.

And...if that doesn't work...move on :)

Post: Estate Planning tax question

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First off @Kash Johnson I am sorry to hear about your father in laws health and have been through this myself.

This is definatly a question for a tax attorney / business attorney / CPA / Financial advisor / Etc.

Specifically you want to also consult with an "elder law attorney" who can advise you on the impact of asset protection and taxes when it comes to stuff like this.

The challenge always is finding a financial professional that understands the full spectrum of tax and asset protection and not just specialized in one area of it.

We use a very advanced trust called an "Irrivocable, Non-Grantor, Complex, Discretionary, Spendthrift Trust" and it has both the asset protection and the tax mitigation. If you want I can connect you with my team so you can learn more but definatly talk to multiple people so you can fully understand all of your options.