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All Forum Posts by: Aaron Lathan

Aaron Lathan has started 3 posts and replied 12 times.

Post: New Investor in Houston, TX

Aaron LathanPosted
  • Investor
  • Houston, TX
  • Posts 12
  • Votes 1
Originally posted by @James Miller:

Welcome to BP. Network, network, network to build your buyer list. Attend local investment clubs too. Join a service organization that has movers and shakers (Rotary, Kiwanis etc). Get involved in local politics. You'll meet plenty of buyers. 

NEVER break your word. NEVER try to 'screw' these buyers; always show them a fair deal. You make some money, they make some money. Never you make all the money, and the buyer is screwed.

 Thanks for the advice.  I've signed up for a few meetups and plan to attend some investment club meetings over the next few weekends.  

Post: New Investor in Houston, TX

Aaron LathanPosted
  • Investor
  • Houston, TX
  • Posts 12
  • Votes 1
Originally posted by @Account Closed:

ghost leads and networking with get you plenty of cash buyers. Would you mind helping me with my DM marketing to absentee owners? 

 I found a few youtube videos giving you the listsource criteria to find absentee owners.  Buying the list is roughly $100 for about 500 names give or take.  Or I believe you can get the information from your local tax assessor.  Once you have a list find a youtube tutorial on a place like click2mail to send out your postcards/letters

Post: New Investor in Houston, TX

Aaron LathanPosted
  • Investor
  • Houston, TX
  • Posts 12
  • Votes 1

Hi,

I'm new to the Houston area and looking to network within the area.  My ultimate strategy is the buy and hold then trade up philosophy.  I house hacked my first townhome in San Antonio and it is cashflow positive plus $150 a month after everything.  Not bad for a newb.  However now that I'm here in Houston I need capital to get more properties.  Sounds like a wholesaler in the making.  I've sent out my DM marketing campaign to find motivated sellers and have a few nibbles but no deals under contract (I'm close! I can feel it)  How did you local investors go about building your cash buyer list for wholesaling and other creative financing deals?

Post: Subject To Vs. Lease Option

Aaron LathanPosted
  • Investor
  • Houston, TX
  • Posts 12
  • Votes 1
Originally posted by @Brian Gibbons:

Texas lease options and Texas wraps and Texas subject to's are well explained here

Www.LoneStarLandLaw.com

The thing about buying a property subject to or wrapound mortgage and getting on title is 

you need to do something quickly with the property because of the due on sale clause

The Texas Lease option laws you need to understand them because many Texas RE attorneys don't

@John Jackson of leasingtobuy.com it's probably the best resource for Texas

 I've come across a few of his youtube interview and they seem to conflict a tad with LoneStarLandLaw.com but he seems to be the man in Texas so I think I'll reach out to him.  Thanks for all of your help.  This may be a silly question but is there any place where I can see if laws are more strict or less strict than Texas?  I'm from Baton Rouge, LA and if things are easier to do there I think I'd lean towards moving my investing there.  Or would I have to pretty much save up to consult a lawyer in each state I want to invest to protect myself?

Post: Subject To Vs. Lease Option

Aaron LathanPosted
  • Investor
  • Houston, TX
  • Posts 12
  • Votes 1
Originally posted by @Gary Van Horn:

Just a further point about the "due on sale" clause.  It is generally an option the bank has.  This means they may  choose to exercise the option or not choose to exercise it.  Generally if they don't exercise it when someone else takes over making the payments, the mortgage documents still allows them to exercise it later without any penalty.  It is not a use it or lose it  situation for them, so they are quite willing to acept payments on anyone's mortgage from anyone else.

 I really appreciate all of your feedback Gary.  I'll continue to dig into this and try to get some kinks worked out.

Post: Subject To Vs. Lease Option

Aaron LathanPosted
  • Investor
  • Houston, TX
  • Posts 12
  • Votes 1
Originally posted by @Gary Van Horn:

The two get confused by many people. Buying subject to the existing mortgage has been around a long time. It is often coupled with an exit strategy of selling under a lease option. The reason for the coupling is the property has no or very little equity and is not a "deal" as you commonly hear the term used. You will only be successful on a "subject to" buy if you have a very motivated seller who needs to move on because, they will stay on the Mortgage as the primary obligee ,while you have promised in your contract with them to pay their mortgage. This is their "least worst option" (with apologies to Phil Grove). They really don't have any other choice as the property simply isn't "sellable". The advantage to the investor is that they have no skin in the game and have control over the property. Usually, the property really can't be "sold" as the mortgage payoff & closing costs exceed the current ARV. The only really viable exit strategy is to find someone who currently can't qualify for their own mortgage and lease the property to them on terms that pay the existing mortgage and if possible add some cash flow for you. Also you take an upfront payment for the option, which gives you the cushion if the lease doesn't work out. That's the gist of it. Don't try it without proper legal counsel, as the uninitiated can get burned, if the paperwork isn't properly done. It is a strategy I employ and is very viable in the current market.

 Thanks for the response Gary!  Quick follow up I would be targeting people who haven't been able to sell for 5 months to a year.  The beauty of the system appears to be that my credit nor my money is directly tied to the existing mortgage from what I see.  I'd like to do right by the seller as my intention is to solve their problem but also profit.  Would you set up the deal having a 2-3 year deal with the seller covering just their mortgage payments and find a motivated buyer under a 1 year option?  

Also quick example:

Let's say the house is worth 100k and the owner has 95k left.  Require a payment of 700 for Mortgage with a 2000 down payment requirement, that I would agree to contingent of me finding a qualified buyer within the term.  I then find a buyer willing to pay 110k with 7000 fee option (2k to the seller and 5k to me non refundable) lease rate of 900 for 1 year with option to extend a year (2400 a year rental spread) and have lease agreement where there cover all repairs and maintenance.  If the option is picked up I would then make the additional 3k from the locked in price, the original seller would have 100k loan taken over by the new lease buyer and I'm removed from the equation all together correct?  Just trying to make sure my logic isn't terribly flawed.  Thanks again for your help.

Post: Subject To Vs. Lease Option

Aaron LathanPosted
  • Investor
  • Houston, TX
  • Posts 12
  • Votes 1

Hi,

I'm new to investing and like most things starting out I don't have capital.  An old mentor of mine once told me that if you can't make money without money then even if you have money you'll probably go broke.  He wasn't into real estate so I couldn't really use him for reference.  I've been looking for ways to creatively and legally build capital for the next couple years so that I can begin to have down payments on multifamily long term rentals.  Some way or another whether by coincidence or divine intervention I came across a youtube video discussing "zero down" deals in which none of my personal money or credit is at stake.  The two terms I heard over and over for the next 7 hours (I was super intrigued and lost all at once) were Lease Options and Subject to existing mortgage deals.  Good videos that I found talked about one of the categories but never talked about both Lease option and Subject to deals in the same videos.  Some decent videos I found seemed to blend the two too much and confused me as to what was what.  Can anyone give me a crash course on Subject to Vs. Lease Options as an investor?  Thanks for sticking around this long.  I'm appreciative of any help the community can give me.  

Post: Multifamily Homes Already Rented Out

Aaron LathanPosted
  • Investor
  • Houston, TX
  • Posts 12
  • Votes 1
Originally posted by @Account Closed:
Originally posted by @Aaron Lathan:

Thanks in advance if you make it all the way through!

I'm new to real estate investing.  I recently moved from San Antonio to Houston and have successfully rented my first home (using a property manager YAY!)  I'm looking into Multifamily homes both in Houston and in Baton Rouge and several 3-unit & 4-unit homes in desirable areas that I believe would do well and my initial calculations "showed" a great return; state that they're already "fully rented" at a set rate.  

Since the tenants already have a lease with the current owner, is there anything special I need to do to get them re-leased through a property manager of my choice and have their payments routed to me?

Can I change the lease rates if they're a little low for the area?

Many of realtor dot com homes also say "don't disturb tenant"

How do I know the property is not a complete dump?  I don't have the money for major repairs but most of the homes seem to not show the interior.  

I appreciate any advice.

 You can't change any lease terms until the current lease is up, and you and your tenants sign a new one.

To know if a property is a dump or needs repairs, you should go see it in person.

 Thanks for the response.  I appreciate it!

Post: Multifamily Homes Already Rented Out

Aaron LathanPosted
  • Investor
  • Houston, TX
  • Posts 12
  • Votes 1
Originally posted by @Fred Heller:

Not giving legal advice. Have you seen the leases? If there isn't a clause in the lease allowing the owner to terminate the lease upon a sale, the lease runs with the land and you have to honor it.

Getting the rent paid to you is relatively easy. The PM will collect all leases and other contracts associated with the property. He should prepare a packet explaining the property is under new ownership, along with the necessary contact/emergency information, and an explanation of the new rent payment process.

Very important: Be sure all security deposits held by the previous owner are transferred to your PM's trust account.

And yes I have seen those "do not disturb tenants" in listings many times and it drives me crazy. I suspect it has less to do with disturbing the tenant and more to do with not letting the tenant know that the property is on the market.

Fred! Thanks for the tips.  I will definitely keep these tips as I save and scout for properties.  

Post: Multifamily Homes Already Rented Out

Aaron LathanPosted
  • Investor
  • Houston, TX
  • Posts 12
  • Votes 1
Originally posted by @Kelly N.:

Hello Aaron,

We just bought our third occupied multiplex, so now have 10 units total.  You will have to honor the existing leases (unless there is a clause in them stating otherwise), so you will want a copy of those prior to making an offer or once your offer has been accepted.  Study them closely, you never know what you might find.  We had one tenant who was supposed to be paying $500/ month buy had prepaid his rent at the rate of $430/month, which we did not discover until we got the leases.  We received the prorated amount for the time from when we took possession, but our offer had been based on the higher rent.

So far it has worked out well for us, but we almost always have seen every apartment before making an offer.  One tenant refused access on 1 occasion and the key was missing on the second try (likely a realtor trying to make sure there was less competition), but we made an offer based on the other two units.

Some areas have mandatory rental inspections, so I would check to make sure the property is current.  There should be an inspection clause in your offer giving you time to hire a reputable company to go inspect the property for you, and they should have access to everything at this point.  If they find anything that needs to be fixed, you can negotiate to lower the price or have the seller fix it, or you could walk away at that point if you can't come to an agreement.  You'd lose the cost of the inspection, any money you have paid to obtain financing, and possibly your earnest money, but that might be a lot better than buying a dump!

Good luck,

Kelly

 Thanks for the great feedback.  I appreciate the tips.