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All Forum Posts by: Mike Sales

Mike Sales has started 6 posts and replied 18 times.

Post: Was your home a rehab?

Mike SalesPosted
  • IN
  • Posts 23
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Tim, I'm actually going to do the same thing beginning the new year. I'm going to buy a cheap house for cash, rehab(I have some family members that can do the work for cheaper. Then the next year do the same thing. I hope to build up a nice portfolio of SFH's, eventually I want to get into 4 units etc. This is a buyers market and houses are simply too cheap not to buy, I prefer a buy and hold for long-term cash flow myself.

Post: Rehabbing Rentals

Mike SalesPosted
  • IN
  • Posts 23
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I've been thinking of the prospect of buying cheap properties in cash, and then just holding them for passive income. What is the best way to learn to DIY to save on labor cost, are there any good reads on the subject. What are some things to look for etc?

Post: Section 8's

Mike SalesPosted
  • IN
  • Posts 23
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Originally posted by "PNW":
I only get 2 types of applicants from Section 8.

Some of them are scabby itchy meth heads with snot encrusted children. The others arrive in 2 brand new SUV's, wearing designer clothes. He has an income of $50,000 or more a year. She qualifies for Section 8 because she is staying home wtith the kids and they aren't a married.

I don't rent to druggies and I don't rent to people who know a lot more about working the system than I do.

Of course, I don't see any honest straight-forward applicants because I tell every caller I don't do leases. so the only Section 8 tenants I see come out do the entire interview, fill out the application, and then spring it on me that they are Section 8. I guess they think that if I've met them in person, I will be so charmed that I will change the rules just for them.

My local Section 8 office has a bad attitude about landlords, and I am not going to put up with it. Otherwise I'd take Section 8 tenants if they passed my screening. I had a good Section 8 applicant back in 1982; I would have accepted her as a tenant. Haven't meet another one, but they must be out there somewhere.

I'm interested in section 8 rentals as well. The area I plan to start in is perfect, but section 8 is pretty strigent. But you know you'll get a check. If you screen properly. If you do it right it could be extremely lucrative.

Post: Appraiser v. Property Manager

Mike SalesPosted
  • IN
  • Posts 23
  • Votes 0
Originally posted by "TimWieneke":
Yeah, I like the property that pays itself off in a couple years of renting. :-) As far as the mgmt - read Robert Shemin's Secrets of a Millionaire landlord. He did a lot of landlording in "low end" areas and has great tips of getting very good "low end" tenants.

Indiana: $300-$600 for the prelicensing course to get your agents license. 1 year under a broker to qualify for brokers license. I've looked into it. Barbera is dead on about having a license to get a slice of the "agents" fee - which is why I'm pursuing it.

How does one get a slice by being an agent, I'm a bit confused sorry.

Post: Appraiser v. Property Manager

Mike SalesPosted
  • IN
  • Posts 23
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Originally posted by "TimWieneke":
Originally posted by "barbera":
I strongly disagree with Tim that appraisals are worthless a good unbias appraisal on a peice of property is worth it's weight in gold. My point being unless you know the market as well as the appraiser does, how do you know a good deal from a bad deal.

As I said, in the context of investing in rental property in Indiana - I don't need appraisals. When you're buying property for $9,000-$14,000 a unit after repairs and it rents for $500-800 a unit, if you can't figure out that it works without an appraisal....then I can't help you.

Doesn't take a genius to see the property will cash flow. I can look on the MLS and pretty much find properties that cash flow great in some areas. The thing is I always wanted to leave Indiana, but I know the real estate market here is strong for my long-term plans so I may have to stick around for another 10-15 years.

With that said, if I just get the agents license, would I have access to the MLS, or do I still need a broker to work under?

Post: Appraiser v. Property Manager

Mike SalesPosted
  • IN
  • Posts 23
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Originally posted by "TimWieneke":
"so I say be a full time real estate investor and flip"

Honestly....easier said than done in a state where cities are predominantly 66% non-owner occupied housing. Your best chance for flipping in Indiana is flipping rental property which you must manage to show them as a performing asset or flipping through lease option (land contracts here) which you must manage until you get a tenant who qualifies for financing.

Really 66%? I'm assuming you mean big cities like Indianapolis, Fort Wayne, Gary etc?

I will be attending a meeting in the near future. I'm in the Gary area.

Post: Will it Work????

Mike SalesPosted
  • IN
  • Posts 23
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Originally posted by "Buck":
Galvin,

Pull my reins in if I'm leading too much but... As long as the property is good on all the determining factors of NCF, LTF, and DSCR and you can swing the down payment then it should be a no brainer for the lender right?

If I were you I would look into the FHA 223f program for commericial loans. If the building qualifies, than you can get a higher LTV loan of 85%, and the seller is allowed to take back like a 7.5% so in affect you could get it at a max LTV of 92.5%. I take a little comfort knowing that this program will like able avail to me, when I wish to purchase a commericial property in the future.

Post: Appraiser v. Property Manager

Mike SalesPosted
  • IN
  • Posts 23
  • Votes 0
Originally posted by "TimWieneke":
Ok, you're in Indiana. I don't think I've ever had a desire to get an appraisal yet on an Indiana property. Appraisals here are worth just a hair above jack friggin' squat. Is the property cashflowing? If it is, you will win. If it isn't, you will lose. How do you keep a property cashflowing? Buy it cheap and manage it right. You can buy in this state where the monthly rent is upwards of 4-5% of the purchase price. Doesn't take a brain surgeon to make those work. The key is good management.

So....which would I suggest? Management without a doubt.

Whichever way you go - I know people who work in both careers and all of them keep telling me they can't wait to get out of them....lol

Yes, Indiana property is cheap, only thing bad about living in Indiana is the weather.

Post: When to Buy in Bad Areas???

Mike SalesPosted
  • IN
  • Posts 23
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I've always seen bad areas as a cash cow if you can deal with the tenant relations. It's way easier to find cash flowing properties. The cons are obvious as you may have a liquidity problem as well as hard time managing tenant relations. I like the idea of investing in low income areas, becuase of the guaranteed. With my strategy, I'm going to use them as passive income.