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All Forum Posts by: Eli Gla

Eli Gla has started 1 posts and replied 3 times.

Post: Kickbacks to agents from investors

Eli GlaPosted
  • Investor
  • Gilbert, AZ
  • Posts 4
  • Votes 0
Originally posted by @Crystal Smith:
Originally posted by @Eli Gla:

Any thoughts?

1st thought- If your dealing directly w/ the listing agent get a buyer's agent.  A good buyers agent can usually pick up the phone & get answers you can't get directly from a listing agent.  

2nd thought-  In a competitive market w/ bids above asking price sellers then make decisions on contracts based on terms.  We have seen & been in situations w/ multiple offers above our list price.  We accepted the offer w/ better terms, stronger Proof of Funds, ability to close faster......  

Since you've only submitted 2 contracts it's time for you to do some research & find out what terms are winning the day in your market.  

 Thanks Crystal

We do have a buyers agent that is why we know so much about the deals and the fact we were top offer on at least one.

Our offers are squeaky clean - all cash, no inspection, no contingencies, close in 2 days. 

We are not new to buying property so we know our offer was a sellers dream.

I agree that we will wait and see if this happens again.

So I am hoping this was just 2 bad experiences but in reality with everyone wanting a piece of the same pie it's not surprising that there could be something going on. 

Post: Kickbacks to agents from investors

Eli GlaPosted
  • Investor
  • Gilbert, AZ
  • Posts 4
  • Votes 0

Thanks Karen :)

No they won't let us be present as they say they are presenting multiple offers, which is fair enough. 

I will see if they are representing the buyer and seller, this was not disclosed but I can always check after the fact.

I do understand the difference between submitting your best price and not getting a response. This I would think is common to ensure you submit your best and highest in a multiple offer situation.

Post: Kickbacks to agents from investors

Eli GlaPosted
  • Investor
  • Gilbert, AZ
  • Posts 4
  • Votes 0

Hi all,

I have just started looking at investing in our first flip. We have been heavily involved in bidding on homes in our area for a couple of weeks. 

I have an uneasy feeling that certain bids we have lost out on are due to the actual listing agent receiving kickback from other buyers to ensure their offer is put to the seller.

Has anyone had the same experience? Its a very competitive market so this wouldn't come as a surprise. I also know it is illegal :(

My reasoning is as follows:

2 deals - we offered at least $40K above asking price -I'm talking about a $175K home here. We were told we were the highest bidder. Offers closed an hour later. We stressed that we would love the opportunity to counter if we did not come up as the higher bidder (just in case). The listing agent said of course.

Obviously 3 hours later we find out the home is under contract - no response by agent.

So I find it hard to believe that an agent who works off commission will not return to eager and involved buyers to get an increased sale price. Who turns down free money - except if they are getting it from another buyer already.

There are many flippers in my market and the difference between a winning bid is the listing agent and what he presents to his clients.

Any thoughts?