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All Forum Posts by: Joe Lambert

Joe Lambert has started 9 posts and replied 50 times.

Post: RUBS, multi-family, and bitcoin mining arbitrage

Joe LambertPosted
  • Omaha, NE
  • Posts 50
  • Votes 29
Quote from @Denver McClure:

Interesting thought there @Joe Lambert. If you end up testing it, let me know how it goes. It would make an excellent case study! Were you thinking about starting small with one or two miners? 

In order to get to the industrial rate, which is 25,000 kWH per month, I calculated it would take around 12 S19 Pro bitcoin miners to hit that threshold. Doing this would eliminate all the service fees to the tenant by the power company and one power bill for your multiunit. I think it could add significant revenue to a multiunit complex. The one issue with PoW miners is sound and heat, so would have to get creative solutions for that. 

Post: RUBS, multi-family, and bitcoin mining arbitrage

Joe LambertPosted
  • Omaha, NE
  • Posts 50
  • Votes 29
Quote from @Denver McClure:

Hey @Joe Lambert, that idea has been floated around the crypto mining community for a while now. The problem is profitability of the actual at home mining rigs. You can go pick up a few Bitmains with fair hash rates and start mining bitcoin, but I don't see too many pools that are profitable for residential electric plans. You might have better luck mining a different coin/token right now if you'd like to achieve profitability first, then hope that the rigs actually warm the surrounding area. 

The money spent on the Bitmain or other mining rig might be better aimed at some form of insulation improvements. For reference, I mine Helium (HNT) using rigs in several of my rental properties. The miners don't use nearly as much electricity compared to BTC rigs, but it is a good way of adding additional diversified income streams to your portfolio.

If you RUBS your whole complex and include electrical costs, I think you could jump to an industrial rate. I’d like to test it sometime on one of mine but I think you could arbitrage the power rate between residential and industrial. 

Post: RUBS, multi-family, and bitcoin mining arbitrage

Joe LambertPosted
  • Omaha, NE
  • Posts 50
  • Votes 29

Has anyone looked into utilizing bitcoin mining to minimize utility costs, such as electricity, while integrating the heat in the winter?

My idea would be to use enough mining equipment to reach the industrial electrical rate, charge the resident the average electrical cost of a unit, and pocket the difference.  My calculations indicate that there is about 33% savings in the rate between industrial electrical rate and residential, this is before the mining profit and heat synergies. 

Thoughts?

Post: Bitcoin is 10k again what are you going to do now?

Joe LambertPosted
  • Omaha, NE
  • Posts 50
  • Votes 29
Quote from @Terrell Garren:

First she documented the alt-right. Now she’s coming for crypto. (worldnewsera.com

“Most of my disdain is reserved for the big players who are marketing this to a mainstream audience as though it’s an investment, often promising to be a ticket out of a really tough financial spot for people who don’t have many options,” White said. “It’s very predatory.”

You should send this to the bitcoin CEO. I think it’s a relevant concern. 

Quote from @Jill F.:

@Rob Kishi I know this is going to sound like my tinfoil hat is on a little too tight but...

it seems possible, if not likely, that the keepers of the banking system status quo will start up a digital currency backed by the treasury and then make rules that will protect the interests of the status quo. It's hard to say where that will leave "outsiders" like bitcoin...

The current backing system is already digital and backed by treasuries. Bitcoin has thrived against all other assets over last ten years in that environment. Bring digital is not the primary value of bitcoin. 

Post: Bitcoin is 10k again what are you going to do now?

Joe LambertPosted
  • Omaha, NE
  • Posts 50
  • Votes 29
Quote from @Terrell Garren:

B, it's not currency. It's property. Do you check your house value every day?

Bitcoin is a digital asset designed by its inventor, Satoshi Nakamoto, to work as a currency. It is commonly referred to with terms like: digital currency, digital cash, virtual currency, electronic currency, digital gold, or cryptocurrency.

You need to find Satoshi and let him know you are moving the goal posts. 

If your house was liquid on a minute by minute basis it would be highly volatile. 

Post: Bitcoin is 10k again what are you going to do now?

Joe LambertPosted
  • Omaha, NE
  • Posts 50
  • Votes 29
Quote from @Terrell Garren:

Crypto is starting to lose its cool – just look at El Salvador | Rowan Moore | The Guardian

Fantasies of a Bitcoin City have been undermined by the country’s huge losses in cryptocurrency



Fantasies of a home ownership have been undermined by the country’s huge debasement of currency  


Post: Bitcoin is 10k again what are you going to do now?

Joe LambertPosted
  • Omaha, NE
  • Posts 50
  • Votes 29
Quote from @Terrell Garren:

 There is a difference between "crypto" and Bitcoin.  If you don't know the nuances on why they are different then you are just yelling at clouds on this message board. All other coins are securities or scams, bitcoin is property.  That's been decided by US federal financial agencies.  

Quote from @Karen Margrave:

If we could get everyone to agree that rocks hold value, they would. Whether it's the dollar, or Bitcoin unless there's something tangible that backs them, the only value they actually have is what is perceived and agreed upon. Why we moved away from the gold standard is perplexing. 

In reality, the most valuable commodity on earth right now is water, and that's why all the billionaires are buying up all the farms and orchards. Water will be what wields true power in the future, and the water barons are quickly amassing it. 

As to Bitcoin it's still something that will be able to be tracked by the governments. The fear of government is the new technology that will allow for money to be put into a system they cannot control and track. If you let your mind wander you can see the complete collapse of the existing financial system world wide, then what? 

Bitcoin is backed by energy.  You can't produce a bitcoin without the energy to run a miner.  Bitcoin in it's purest form has the potential to arbitrage the value of a kw across the world.  

I've been thinking about this and how a real estate investor could tap and release some equity in their asset via NFT. Lets say your investment property had a LTV of 80 when you bought it 4 years ago. Now the property has appreciated in value by 50%. So you now have a property that is LTV of ~50 and the only way to tap the equity is through traditional channels of refinancing. Could you tokenize your property and sell off a percentage to invest in something else? Seems like a cheaper way to directly meet capital. The challenges probably get into establishing a lien on the property for the portion sold.