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All Forum Posts by: Damon Tyler

Damon Tyler has started 7 posts and replied 34 times.

Post: Newbie from Westfield, MA

Damon TylerPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Mendon, MA
  • Posts 36
  • Votes 8
@Ian Coddington Welcome to BP -

Post: Living off rental portfolio?

Damon TylerPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Mendon, MA
  • Posts 36
  • Votes 8
Buy and Hold - 5-6 year ...Napkin math on the BiggerPockets forums http://www.biggerpockets.com/forums/109/topics/572138-buy-and-hold-5-6-year-napkin-math

Post: Living off rental portfolio?

Damon TylerPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Mendon, MA
  • Posts 36
  • Votes 8
Marty- Surprised no-one has answered. I am also curious in the answer - see my related post regarding my napkin plan.
Originally posted by @Jack P.:

So a few things that jumped out to me:

-No cost for lawn/yard/snow.  I'm assuming you're going to have some costs there.  Maybe you're doing it yourself?

-on a $74k property, expect to have a lot more maintenance issues than you budget.  I would expect there's a reason you could buy a property that hits the 2% rule.  Are you spending a lot more up front on a rehab or capital expenses that aren't listed here?  Are you doing all the maintenance yourself?

-Same goes for vacancy.  I'm not sure of your market, but it may be hard to attract and hold onto good tenants at that price point.  I would expect a lot more turnover and bad debt than you calculate.  When you're buying for $25-30k/door, that doesn't typically result in 700-credit score tenants.  

However, if you can hit your marks here, you're in good shape. I'd be content with consistent 10% ROI.

Jack - thanks for your reply. I really appreciate it! 

1) Good catch on the lawn/yard/snow. It is in the other costs but should be higher and broken out. I will break out and add. 

2) I understand, but that has not been my experience so far. Maybe it is because I am careful on the purchase. For instance the one I am buying has stucco exterior, new roof, dry basement, new furnaces (3 of 4), new hot water heaters, new plumbing (except for some of the drains). 

3) Vacancy - My four unit has only had one vacancy in 15+ years. I upgraded the apartment moved a tenant from on unit into that redone one and then renovated that unit and had it rented. Total vacancy 15 days in over 15 years. The rents are only a little below market (not by much). I don't expect that with these others purchases but thought 7-9% vacancy was a 'safe' % given my experience. What would you set it at? 

What does a 'good' move in ready 3 or 4 unit look like in your market? Would love to see numbers - if you have them and are willing to share. 

D

Post: Buy and Hold - 5-6 year ...Napkin math

Damon TylerPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Mendon, MA
  • Posts 36
  • Votes 8
Originally posted by @Abdul Shishi:

My napkin math.   It wont work at $100 per door .  Why not include appreciation , natural or forced.

 @Abdul Shishi 

Thank you for talking the time to crush my dreams :) Only joking - I do appreciate your time and insight. 

That being said, I need a little more to go on. I do believe in and have experienced the benefits of using leverage and gaining rapid appreciation. I do believe it is one of the fastest paths to gain wealth. I have invested in https://www.housingalerts.com/ - for that exact reason. (that is part of a different plan) I also have a local plan to do fix and flips (but am struggling to create and find opportunities).

The plan I shared was my more conservative plan. So when you say "it won't work" are you saying 1) I wont be able to find properties that net $100 per door or ($400) per unit at the leveraged entry price of $30K ish?  2) Are you saying it won't work because I ought to be doing something else?  3) Something else..

What do the numbers look like in your market? Is it an appreciation market? If you were me what would you do? $30K every 6 months..

D

Post: Structure for purchase - partnership

Damon TylerPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Mendon, MA
  • Posts 36
  • Votes 8

@Bassit Siddiqi Thank you for your assistance. Excellent point regarding the need for the entity to be registered in the state(s) it is doing business in. Much appreciated. 

Post: Buy and Hold - 5-6 year ...Napkin math

Damon TylerPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Mendon, MA
  • Posts 36
  • Votes 8

I would love your opinion - especially if you have over 12 3-4 unit properties. I have heard some guru's say "Buy and hold doesn't work - I got a ton of properties and never could get the cash flow to flow" - these are normally people selling notes or flip programs... 

Here is my napkin math for my 'plan'. If I buy in markets that are solid but I do NOT assume appreciation. If each 3-4 unit costs about $30K down and returns on average $100 per door net (or $400 per investment even if 3 fam) and if I invest $4-5k per month AND all of the cash flow from the rentals and just keep rolling the snow ball then...

Will I have created a yearly cash flow of around $85K?  People who have been here and have done something similar... does it actually work something like this?   What actually happens at what point do most jump up to larger commercial? Please share some details. PM me if you don't want it to be public. 

Looking for opinions from active buy and hold investors that have 3 and 4 unit SF. I know markets are different. How do these compare to your market? These are my two latest purchases. How do they look to you? I believe I have everything set to worse case scenario - very conservative. 

4 Unit

3 Unit

Post: What features of the MLS do you use most in analyzing your deals?

Damon TylerPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Mendon, MA
  • Posts 36
  • Votes 8
We do mls data dumps looking at list price vs price per sq ft - to start ... find all those lazy RE agents that enter the sq ft dat wrong :)

Post: Love travel - like MLM

Damon TylerPosted
  • Real Estate Agent
  • Mendon, MA
  • Posts 36
  • Votes 8
Hopefully I will not regret asking this question... does anyone know of an exceptional travel MLM or business?