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All Forum Posts by: Harold Anderson

Harold Anderson has started 4 posts and replied 62 times.

Post: Renting a mobile home in a 55+ park

Harold AndersonPosted
  • Investor
  • Hubbard, OR
  • Posts 62
  • Votes 37
Sue,
I didn't purchase the MH I mentioned in the original question.  Instead, I purchased one in a different park for $1000.  It was a wonderful experience.  First off, I insured it with Foremost.  No problem but it was in my name as the owner.  I then spent the next 9 months commuting the 40 miles to work on it, 7 days a week.  I'd thought it would take 2 to 3 weeks.  After the first rain, I realized I had a worse situation on my hand than I'd realized.  I'd thought I'd done a good inspection but the real problems were hidden in a fake ceiling where one leak was and around windows and a sliding door that had been installed without any protection from the rain.  The more I looked, the more I found.  I ended up doing a total remodel with new windows, doors, plumbing, electrical, heating, flooring, and kitchen cabinets.  I ended up spending $35000 on it.  I didn't use the insurance - not sure if I could.  Then I sold it for $15000 and financed the entire amount.  I believe I got about $10000 out of it before she skipped out.  It was still in excellent condition.  So I sold it again to a neighbor to the property for $15000.  This buyer paid full in cash.  

I let the insurance company know about my arrangements.  They had no problems with it and are still insuring it to the last buyers.


As to the park policy.  I ran into a problem with that here as well.  They refused to let me rent the MH.  I wasn't able to find any park that would allow that.  Since I spent so much time at the park during remodelling, I got to know the park employees and administration very well except for the actual owners who were in another state.  The owners laid down the law.  The administration seemed to realize that what I was doing was good for the park and helped me as much as possible.  They helped me find buyers, let their handymen help me when needed, let me go through their stacks of parts for roofing etc., mowed my lawn.  When the park owners came for an inspection just before I sold it the last time, they told me that I needed to do some expensive work to bring the MH up to the "park standards".  The administration never pushed me to do the work which was "cosmetic" and I sold it as it was.

Ultimately, by doing owner financing, it was little different than if I'd bought it and rented it out.  The first owner looked at it as less expensive rent.  The only thing I found uncomfortable about was having to pay lot rent while renovating, not knowing if I'd be able to sell quickly or if the park owners would create more difficulties. 

Would I do it again?  No but only because I'm too old and my other investments are providing enough that I don't need the money I could eventually make on MHs. 

I would highly recommend younger people to do this, though.  I learned so much doing my first, with all of it's difficulties, that I've got a pretty good idea how to do it to actually make money and provide good housing.  Personally, I would never do it by just buying cheap and selling high without making improvements.  I've no interest in that.  

Post: 26 ---- NO EXPERIENCE ---- NEED HELP

Harold AndersonPosted
  • Investor
  • Hubbard, OR
  • Posts 62
  • Votes 37

@Nicholas Moffett

It sounds like you've read the books and are looking for a mentor.  I'll suggest an alternative for learning.  It may not be as fast as you'd like but you will learn.

1.  Forget about advertising for a mentor. 

2. Start looking on MLS, in the area you're interested in, for Multi families.

3.  Look at as many and as different types of MFs. 

4.  Do the numbers on each one.  You've read the books so should be able to do this.  Each time you do it, you'll get better.

5.  Keep looking.  You don't need a mentor now.  During this process you will start meeting lots of people including other investors.  You might even find a more experienced investor who will be willing to help you or you can partner with.  Don't buy anything until you find something that pencils out.

6.  Beware of faked numbers.  Talk to tenants if possible.  Talk to neighbors if possible.

6.  You sound like a troll.  But, if not, keep talking on this forum.  You may develop friendships here.  Remember that demanding help won't get you what you want.

@Orlando Paz

Sorry to hear about your job loss.  I know the fear that comes with that.  

I would be careful about the free mhs.  It's easy to find you have to put too much into them.  You're lucky if you can get free lot rent for a time.  

Post: A good deal?

Harold AndersonPosted
  • Investor
  • Hubbard, OR
  • Posts 62
  • Votes 37

@Candice Gold

As an investor (much more than real estate), I have made my biggest mistakes with making purchases based on "feel". 

There are ways to find out more about this home.  Your county appraiser's office probably has records on the history of ownership of the property.  This can give you clues.  Talking to neighbors can also give clues.  

Post: Help!! Need help with Purchasing a Mobile Home

Harold AndersonPosted
  • Investor
  • Hubbard, OR
  • Posts 62
  • Votes 37

@Victoria Lorick

Sounds interesting. Have the units been rented out? Does the HOA allow rentals?

Post: What does a "rentable mobile home look like"?

Harold AndersonPosted
  • Investor
  • Hubbard, OR
  • Posts 62
  • Votes 37

@Mark Brown

I'd like to know how to do a good job with rehab on these with only $2500.  It may be possible but I've spent many times that to do a good job and can't see how it could have been done cheaper.  Leaking windows, doors, A/C units, etc can create havoc that's not always visible during inspection.  Small things like aluminum wiring, pests nesting in insulation, rotting boards where you don't expect them, etc can really add up in time and money.

I've got a bad habit of looking at a place and seeing how "easy" it would be to do.  Then I spend way too much time and money on the project because I want it "done right".

On the other hand, I spent 25K to renovate a double wide and am getting $1150 in rent.  I doubt I would have gotten that with just a $2500 reno.

Post: Cash only investing in Mobile Homes - My plan

Harold AndersonPosted
  • Investor
  • Hubbard, OR
  • Posts 62
  • Votes 37

@Bobby Mitchell

Just type @ and start typing the member's name.  It will pop up at the bottom of the text box.  Click on it and you're done.

@Andrew Bondarchuk

There are ways to live like a King/Queen without spending so much money.  The problem is that to do so means making some sacrifices.  You may have to share your stuff.

Renting rooms to roommates.  Or better yet to business people for shorter terms.  You can charge more.  You also have an opportunity to meet new and interesting people.

Create a B&B.  Takes more work but has greater income.  If you don't have time to make breakfast, either hire someone or do just the B.

I quit my job from what we were able to make from just our own home.  Plus we now have a wonderful foster daughter to challenge us;-).

Post: Any difficulties investing within mobile home parks?

Harold AndersonPosted
  • Investor
  • Hubbard, OR
  • Posts 62
  • Votes 37

Another thought about investing in a MH park.  Once you're in, if you spend much time there doing renovations, you'll get to know a lot of the neighbors who will give you a lot of the inside scoop.  Some will tell you how to do your business;-).  Some will give you tips about getting a free roof.  Some will show you their mobile home.  Most will want to see yours when you get close to done.  Some will show you how to deal with management.  One of my neighbors wants to buy mine.

Post: Any difficulties investing within mobile home parks?

Harold AndersonPosted
  • Investor
  • Hubbard, OR
  • Posts 62
  • Votes 37

@Orlando Paz

The deals that management presented to me would have been great because they gave me valuable information that let me know how to get the best deal.  Unfortunately, my wife wants me to find deals closer to home so I passed on them.  I doubt you could get deals like that on Craigslist.

Post: Any difficulties investing within mobile home parks?

Harold AndersonPosted
  • Investor
  • Hubbard, OR
  • Posts 62
  • Votes 37

Orlando,

I'm not too much more experienced than you but I bought in a park that doesn't sell to investors so I suspect that all rules can be broken or twisted.  In my case, the park wanted to buy the same property I was interested in and didn't like investors.  However, after speaking with the MH owner, he refused to sell to the park and insisted on selling to me - for the same price.  The park had to go along with it.

Perhaps because I never see the MHP owners, I've developed a good raport with the park management and they've tried to get me to buy other homes in the same park.

As for credit, I don't know but it doesn't hurt to try.  If you had one credit event, your credit does improve over time.  If your credit rating is from poor management, you may have a harder time getting accepted.