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All Forum Posts by: Scott H.

Scott H. has started 14 posts and replied 45 times.

Post: Fear of being a landlord

Scott H.Posted
  • Indiana
  • Posts 45
  • Votes 11
Originally posted by @Thomas S.:

Plenty of different avenues to invest in real estate. I would definatly advise you choose one of those over being a landlord.

I would not try to get through the road block, you will regret being a landlord if it is not something you can actually enjoy.

 Thomas, I agree, but then I will always wonder if maybe it would have been something I could have enjoyed and been good at.

Post: Fear of being a landlord

Scott H.Posted
  • Indiana
  • Posts 45
  • Votes 11
Originally posted by @Chris Seveney:
@Scott H. Have you considered note investing? You avoid all of that

 I have, Chris. I think that might be a good route for me.

Post: Fear of being a landlord

Scott H.Posted
  • Indiana
  • Posts 45
  • Votes 11

Post: Fear of being a landlord

Scott H.Posted
  • Indiana
  • Posts 45
  • Votes 11
Originally posted by @Kenneth Garrett:

@Scott H.

I understand, I work as an engineer and originally when I started got caught in paralysis analysis.  Always looking for the math equation to confirm things are correct.  Unfortunately that is not how this works.

I ended up being a buy n hold investor.  Go figure.  I had heard all of the horror stories tenant calls in the middle night, police calls and whatever else you could think of.  I could not be anymore wrong.  This is a people business.  If you like people you’ll be fine.

Hire a property manager if don’t want to deal with the day to day.  I truly believe in order to manager your property manager you should do some yourself so you know what it takes.

You will be fine.  After the first one and you realize you made it through.  No scars, no bleeding, just great experience.

Good Luck.

 Thanks, Kenneth. Yes, I am analytical as well. I do like working with people. Just need to make it past he paralysis.

Post: Window in Shower. What would you do?

Scott H.Posted
  • Indiana
  • Posts 45
  • Votes 11
Originally posted by @Bryan H.:

I replaced an old aluminum window with glass block. I had no prior experience and it went well. HD sells everything you need. I also replace the wood trim with composite trim. That was you don't get the rottting. 

 Nice work, Bryan. I love the glass block. Have worked with it in the past and enjoyed it.

Post: Fear of being a landlord

Scott H.Posted
  • Indiana
  • Posts 45
  • Votes 11
Originally posted by @Lien Vuong:

I think that you should seriously think about the lifestyle you want to have and what type of property will give you that return. 

In the case where you're a self recognized worrier you should not buy anything below a B class property and mostly turn key. Having nicer units in letter locations means they're more qualified tenants and less surprises. I will definitely echo @Christopher Lombardi in making sure all your paperwork is in order to protect yourself. 

Additionally you could always hire a PM as well to manage your properties so you have less daily responsibilities with the units themselves and create passive cash flow. 

Thanks, Lien. I currently own a season rental in Arizona dealing with renters over 55 years of age. Payment is required before they get the keys. We rent by the month with our busy season being November thru April.

Post: Fear of being a landlord

Scott H.Posted
  • Indiana
  • Posts 45
  • Votes 11
Originally posted by @Jay Hinrichs:

if you still go ahead then by all means buy the top of the market were your tenant will have a better than 700 fico and a stable job .  do not buy lower end as those properties do take a lot of hand holding.. I mean you can pitch it all to the PM.. but you still have to manage the PM.. 

 Good advice, Jay!

Post: Fear of being a landlord

Scott H.Posted
  • Indiana
  • Posts 45
  • Votes 11
Originally posted by @Christopher Lombardi:

I would say, live close to the property you invest in so you can easily see things with your own eyes.  Make sure the property is in great shape, you have an attorney draft the lease and you thoroughly screen the tenants.  As long as you cross your T's and dot your i's there really isnt too much to worry about.  

 Thanks, Christopher. Yes, have had the attorney lease drawn up. Just getting over the jitters, I guess.

Post: Fear of being a landlord

Scott H.Posted
  • Indiana
  • Posts 45
  • Votes 11
Originally posted by @Jill F.:

I worked my entire professional life as a software engineer and I stuck with it even though it wasn't my passion because the job paid well and let me be part-time from home and because I was too risk averse. Now for the first time, I love my job-- I love being a landlord. The risk of being sued is always present (even as a home owner) but it can be mitigated by insurance, planning, and defensible business practices.  

When you own your own business, you find out what you really value because you get to decide how you spend your time and money.

I truly enjoy building financial security for my family while providing GREAT service to a market where even average service is hard to find. The fact that we actually respect our tenants sets us apart from many others operating in the affordable housing space. 

Your values rather than personality will play a bigger role in determining whether self managing properties is a good fit for you. Being a landlord isn't the right path for everyone and as others have pointed out, there are lots of ways to make money in real estate. But if self-managing buy-and-holds is the right path for you then don't let your fears stop you from realizing a dream. You might want to google risk and cognitive errors-- most people really suck at assessing risk.

 Jill ... I sound a lot like you. Even though my job is not horrible, it has become stagnant and boring. I have always loved real estate. Growing up, my Mom owned her own real estate office which is how I ended up selling real estate back in the 90s. 

In my current job, I am always applauded for my customer service, which I don't doubt would transfer over to the rental arena. I do always think the worst about liability. I have umbrella insurance and even short-term rental insurance with a high liability amount since I do own a seasonal rental in Arizona. The good thing out there is that renters must be over 55 so you would think they would be a little more respectful of the property. Also, payment is due in full before they get the keys (minimum one month stay). I have had my lease drawn up by a professional real estate attorney out there so I think would be covered pretty well as far as that goes as well.

I guess it just comes down to the confidence of knowing things are going to be OK if I do things the right way.

Post: Best Path to Take for Financial Freedom?

Scott H.Posted
  • Indiana
  • Posts 45
  • Votes 11
Originally posted by @Jay Hinrichs:

you can always pay your current mortgage down without the expense of refinancing just send in principal pay downs every month.. my habit has always been to do this.  lets say my mortgage was 1500 a month.. I would set up my auto pay at 2000.. you be surprised how quickly this knocks down your principal and saves interest over the long term

also if you think your house could go up some more keep in mind the tax free 500k for married couple is extremely valuable at retirement age.

 Thanks for the info, Jay!