Quote from @Drew Sygit:
You want to use flips to partially fund this venture - flips that will drive up housing prices => rents. Which you want to lower?
Logically, you can only drive down rents by:
1) Lowering the PRICE of housing:
- How will you do that?
2) Subsidizing rents:
- S8 and other programs statisitically only train tenants how to be dependent on the free handouts.
If you really want to make a difference, try basic financial education for tenants and the financial demographic they come from!
- Can't tell you how many tenant background checks show they are buying lemon cars with 25% "we finance anyone" car loans that are designed to fail.
- All they've got to learn is to save some of their income to pay their bills on time and they could then afford to buy a home.
Instead, they spend every penny they make on things they don't really need and then blame everyone else.
Take a look at a Class C or D tenant's bank statement to see the frivolous things they spend their money on and you'll better understand our society's biggest problem.
Thank you for the feedback—it’s clear this discussion has helped me better articulate my goals and address the disconnect between my vision and the typical investor mindset. Let me clarify a few points.
1. The Market Context:
The area I’m working in is not a large metro but a poorer region where issues like food insecurity affect 14–20% of the population. This isn’t about chasing high-growth markets; it’s about addressing systemic issues that impact quality of life and economic stability. Housing is just one part of the equation—our model aims to reduce housing costs by lowering ownership costs over time.
For example, many mom-and-pop landlords keep rents well below market rates (e.g., $600 vs. $1,200) because they aren’t forced into liquidation events that reset property values. Our model builds on this principle by creating a long-term vehicle that avoids rapid turnover and speculative price inflation.
2. Redefining Value Creation:
I understand the skepticism because my approach challenges the traditional real estate investment mindset. Many investors focus on short-term returns and rent growth, but my target investment vehicle is people.
- By focusing on workforce development, education, and community stability, we’re creating a system where tenants and stakeholders benefit over decades.
- The time horizon is long—70+ years—but the goal is to ensure sustainable growth and community value far beyond immediate profits.
3. Addressing Investor Concerns:
I absolutely recognize that investors need returns within a reasonable timeframe. That’s why our syndication model is designed to provide them with profits over the next 30 years while reinvesting in the community to ensure long-term stability. Beyond that point, the returns aren’t just monetary—they’re legacy-driven.
I find it surprising that some investors can’t see the value of this mission. It’s about more than short-term gains; it’s about creating a self-sustaining system that prevents the very liquidation events that drive rents up and communities out.
4. The Mission:
At its core, this isn’t just about housing or investments—it’s about completely rethinking how value is created. By using time as a key asset, we can ensure that:
- Properties remain affordable and community-focused.
- Tenants have access to education and workforce opportunities.
- Investors receive steady returns without destabilizing the market.
To Summarize:
This project isn’t conventional, and I don’t expect everyone to immediately align with the vision. But for those who do, it offers an opportunity to be part of something transformational—creating a model where real estate serves as a tool for building people, communities, and lasting value.
I’d love to hear from others who’ve worked on long-term, mission-driven projects. How did you balance the tension between short-term returns and long-term goals?