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All Forum Posts by: Hardy Davis

Hardy Davis has started 4 posts and replied 9 times.

Post: How to turn equity into cashflow.

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@Hardy Davis  As long as you've lived in the property for two out of the previous five years, you could qualify for the 121 exclusion. In your case you could take the first 25% of the gain up to $250k tax free with the 121 exclusion, and qualify for a 1031 exchange since it is also used for investment use. I you don't qualify for the 121 exclusion you can still do a 1031 exchange and defer all the capital gains tax. 

This would allow you to reinvest into a larger property such as a duplex, or even multiple properties in areas with a larger growth and cash flow potential. This is a great way to grow your RE portfolio and Start building the cash flow you want for retirement. 

 @Dave Foster thanks for the reply great information. For the 1031 can I put it into multiple cheaper properties. I.e. if it’s 500k of gains on a 1.0M property for simplicity sake. Can I 1031 exchange into  5 100k down payments for 5 properties that are of like kind but lower value than original property? I assume all would have to abide by the timeline restrictions if I am able to do that? Thanks for the help!

Post: How to turn equity into cashflow.

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Howdy BP community. I had my first house hack go very well in a class A neighborhood. Since then I’ve moved out rented it out and working on a live and flip for  my second property (sf) so I can have a house of my own with my girlfriend and make some more capital from it. I have about $500k in stocks and about $600k in equity in my single family house that I rent out. I’m very grateful and lucky my investments have built so much equity and capital but I would like to move it into monthly cashflow so I can work away from a w-2. My area (Anacortes Wa) doesn’t seem like a good market for multi family. What are the next steps you all would recommend to transfer equity into monthly income. Also if you can be specific for finance options. My guess is to 1031 into an 8 unit. Thanks for all the help and guidance. 

If you want cash flow, mortgage notes or mortgage note funds/syndications can yield 10 - 12% annual with a favorable risk / return.  If you want income + growth than you’ll probably have to settle for 5-6% income.  However, the quickest way to build up enough assets to be able to leave your job and live on the passive income is to continue to do exactly what your doing - concentrate on equity building, not income building - UNTIL you’re ready to leave your job. 

 Don,


great point. I’m in a great appreciation market but no cashflow. I would like to be on about a 10-15 year out from retiring so equity is probably the goal. What does that look like when im ready to cash out equity? In my head it’s a 1031 into a nice safe property with a hefty down payment. Lower risk but more consistent cash. 

Post: How to turn equity into cashflow.

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@Hardy Davis - All good questions! If you lived in your primary residence for the last 2 years of 5 years, you're eligible to sell it and pay no taxes on the first $250K for a single person or $500K for a married couple. A 1031 defers paying taxes but a primary residence sale removes the tax liability from selling up to a certain dollar threshold altogether. 

Personally, if possible, I would take the tax free money and transition that into a commercial multifamily property (5+ unit property) rather than 1031. You won't be against a time clock to find a property which is the case with a 1031. You also are gaining tax free funds vs. simply deferring the tax liabilty down the road until you sell the new 1031 property you purchased. Just something to consider. Either way, you are going down the right track. Good luck on transition your equity into cashflowing commercial multifamily. 


 Ya good point. I don’t think I qualify for the 121 exclusion since it’s been house hacked and I actually made 75% of the house a rental property and filed taxes using deductions and depreciation.  It was my primary residence for the past 4 years. Does it still qualify for the exclusion? 

Thanks for the help! 

Post: How to turn equity into cashflow.

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Howdy BP community. I had my first house hack go very well in a class A neighborhood. Since then I’ve moved out rented it out and working on a live and flip for  my second property (sf) so I can have a house of my own with my girlfriend and make some more capital from it. I have about $500k in stocks and about $600k in equity in my single family house that I rent out. I’m very grateful and lucky my investments have built so much equity and capital but I would like to move it into monthly cashflow so I can work away from a w-2. My area (Anacortes Wa) doesn’t seem like a good market for multi family. What are the next steps you all would recommend to transfer equity into monthly income. Also if you can be specific for finance options. My guess is to 1031 into an 8 unit. Thanks for all the help and guidance. 

Post: 401(k) loan for down payment?

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I would take out the 401K loan towards the downpayment.

If you sell stock, you have to pay taxes - You mentioned the 15% federal capital gains tax rate(if you are not in the top bracket, otherwise its 20%).
You may also be subject to the 3.8  Net Investment Income Tax. Furthermore, there is also a potential state income tax.

the 4.5% interest on the 401K loan is being paid to your 401K account.

Basit and Greg,

thanks for the reply. Ya it’s actually better than a 401k loan it’s a TSP loan. I’m trying to take advantage of federal programs while I’m in the military. The interest actually goes back to me so it’s essentially just an opportunity costs question about losing $50k of retirement investments with effectively 0% interest. Ya I will go with this move forward. Thanks again gents and may your pockets ever get bigger. 

Post: 401(k) loan for down payment?

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Hi BP community. I’m working on a fix and flip deal. I am not very liquid at the moment. I have lots of saving in stocks. I also have the ability to take a $50k loan that would cover my closing costs. It would be 15 year loan at 4.5% that would get paid when I sell in about 3 years, amounting to $325/month. My question is would you guys rather sell stocks and take a long term cap gains at 15% tax rate, or take a loan and keep the stocks growing. Any opinion is appreciated. 

Post: Should I accept lower Cash Flow?

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If the high interest rates are killing your cash flow, it might be worth looking at other options. Sure, you might build some equity and snag a deal because of the rates, but if it's not making you money, is it really worth it?

Maybe consider holding off until rates drop or finding a property with better numbers. Don't just settle for a 0% return, that's like buying a fancy car with no engine—it might look good, but it ain't gonna take you anywhere financially.

 The way I see it, cash flow is insurance to my investment. For me the real return comes from depreciation and saving on taxes. Then the appreciation on market and equity gained after 5 years. Is anyone getting cash flown with 7% interest? 

Post: Should I accept lower Cash Flow?

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Todays 30 year fixed rate mortgages are an astonishing 7.1% Based off that I am finding a lot of properties that, if at a 3.5% interest rate, would have a great 9% C on C return. Unfortunately at 7.1% I am seeing basically a 0% C on C return. Is it worth it to take a lower return and hope to refinance later? At least I will build equity and have some tax advantages, or even pay a lower price as a result of the high interest rates. Thanks for reading and please let me know what you smart large pocket investors are thinking for investing in this market. 

Post: 4 Unit in Oak Harbor, Whidbey Washington Valuation

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*This link comes directly from our calculators, based on information input by the member who posted.

Hey everyone, I am new on here. This would be my first 4 unit. Looking for people to provide their 2 cents on the finances. Basically is $0 cash flow on 1st year worth it? I assume I could refinance lower than 7.1% within the next few year so that would be nice. Thanks for any help in advance. Please let me know if you have any questions.

Link to Zillow: https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/690-Bld-I-NW-Oak-Harbor-W...