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All Forum Posts by: Haijin Wu

Haijin Wu has started 1 posts and replied 5 times.

Hi BP community! I'm debating on which path to pursue as my 1st development project, and I'm hoping to hear what y'all think on this topic or what you would do if you're in my position. Any thought or comments are welcomed!

Goal of this project as my 1st development: minimize risk of losing money, make annual $100K profit within 18 months. 

Goal for long term: build a system and repeat, become an expert within a specific niche.

A little background: For the past 10 years I've been working W-2 and on the side managing several rental properties, long term and short term, worked with contractors for remodeling, participated in multi-family deals as LP. Last year I left my W-2 job so have a lot more time in real estate and could really use some extra income. After diving in the different "trades" of an RE investor, I chose group up development as the part of the rope I'm going to hang on to. It will be a very steep learning curve, but I know which a right mindset and team, it is doable. 

Currently I have cash to kick off only 1 out of 2 types of projects that I've gotten really interested in, and here're my mental models:

1. A. Residential, purchase a lot with cash, that has good walkability preferrably around downtown Dallas, vacant or w/ one SFH to be torn down, then build 2-8 units on it. The lot will be in an area with supporting rent so that at time of completion, plan A is to sell all units at completion, and plan B is to keep as rental, refinance and sell in 2 years.

Pro: 

1) I can start building credibility as a developer and get qualified in affordable housing projects in the future.

2) I'm more comfortable at this point with what I know and have access to, including: familiar with this market, know the process on paper, know several lots in my buy box that are ready to build, motivated partner that are also ready to start. 

Con:

1) Risk of having a saturated market in Dallas. Please tell me if you think this is a wrong statement, especially for townhomes under 2k sf and selling for 450k. This type of product is flooding realtor.com, the margin rate is easily eaten if market is low at the time of completion. Plus every lawyer or doctor I talked to seem be doing or have done some side projects like this.

2) Risk from having more complexity in residential comparing to commercial.

B. Commercial, purchase a lot with cash in city corridors, under 3 acre, build a small industrial warehouse, prelease and sell. If this is the path to go, I plan to join the FlexSpace Network by Hamza. I'm not affiliated nor connected with them in anyway, only had a 30 min sales call and felt like they could be a good entry point for education and network. Disclosure - I've joined residential development course before and talked to a number of land investment programs of which none I felt like proceeding.

Pro:

1) Access to a potential partner that has extensive experience in industrial warehouse design, permit and construction in his w-2 job, and is looking to partner with someone who has fund and time to drive the project.

2) Higher entry barrier, thus less competition from individuals if I choose to play at the right size (where institutions don't touch), hopefully

3) Better outlook on future demand for warehouses and office-warehouse.

4) Better profitability based on my own draft underwriting

Con:

1) Risk of lacking knowledge in this asset class, leading to unafforadable failures

2) Risk of spending the time learning this asset class only to find out that it won't work for me.

3) Risk of market slowing down or getting saturated in the next couple of years at project completion.

Given the negative outlook on macro economy evironment and builders holding on new projects, which path would you focus on for the next 12 months, if you were me?

Please also comment with clarifying question if I missed anything to make my question clear. Thanks a ton!!

Quote from @Ken Williamson:
Quote from @Shawn Fletcher:

Hi Leslie, Did you move forward with RE Developer Training offered by Jerome Maldonado. I've been giving lots of thought buying a lot for build and sale of a SFR, and would like to touch base with like minded folks.

Thank you,

Shawn


 I was in the 6 month program and paid $5000. Didn’t get any value from it due to not being able to be on almost all the zoom calls due to my job. I guess that’s my fault for having to work during the times when the calls are scheduled.I Feel his program should’ve been billed for actual calls that you attended vs 6 to 12 months and you’re out. The zoom calls are packed with other wanna be aspiring developers/investors trying to ask him questions. Never once did anyone from his staff call and ask why I wasn’t getting on the calls that I paid to be on if there were problems etc etc. However they did call and ask me to give a good review and once they removed me from the WhatsApp and no longer allowed to network with other individuals from the group they have called trying to get me to sign back up for even more money. I found way better courses since then that actually go over what it takes to build a home for way less money! I’m sure there are a few successes stories in his group but for the majority of people that get in his group they are just wasting their money! You can get most of what he talks about for free on YouTube. And not to mention that once your out of the group you lose access to the zoom calls that you paid to be on so no going back and reviewing them! 

Hi Ken, would you be willing to share the course/instructor name that helped you go over the new build process? Appreciate it!

Post: Anyone hear of Vestright land deals

Haijin WuPosted
  • Dallas, TX
  • Posts 5
  • Votes 1
Quote from @A. Kelly:

@Jim Young @Steve B. I too would love to hear your current thoughts. I'm very close to signing up as a VestRight student myself, but would like to have a better picture of how much it's really going to cost to get deals done once I complete the course. I had an intro call with them a few months ago, and was impressed. However, like many on BP, I have also bought expensive courses in the past and found that the money needed to make the program work wasn't 100% clear out of the gate. I am especially interested in knowing how much capital it takes to get entitlements organized, etc. Any experiences you have had that could shed light on this would be very helpful. 

Hi Kelly, I’m in the same boat now as you were at the time you posted this 11 month ago. Super curious to know how things went for you afterwards? Did you end up joining the program? 
Would love to connect for your experience, sending dm soon. Thank you!
Quote from @Roland Brown:
Quote from @John Crimmins:

After researching VestRight and Cody Bjugan extensively, including other threads on this forum, his course/strategy sounds difficult but realistic and lucrative. I'm thinking about buying in.

Would love to talk to anyone who has done this course though, or knows someone who has. Happy to buy you coffee! Send your friends that know Cody Bjugan!

Hi I’ve completed the course glad to connect and talk about it. 
Hi Roland, I also lives in DFW area and is interested in joining. Would love to connect via a call or in person to hear your experience!
Quote from @John Crimmins:

After researching VestRight and Cody Bjugan extensively, including other threads on this forum, his course/strategy sounds difficult but realistic and lucrative. I'm thinking about buying in.

Would love to talk to anyone who has done this course though, or knows someone who has. Happy to buy you coffee! Send your friends that know Cody Bjugan!

John, thanks for posting this question here! I’m in the same boat - chatted with VestRight sales, got interested in joining, and started looking for real life reviews to reach final decision as the program cost is not cheap for me.

Wondering what was your decision? Would love it if you can share your experience with the program!