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All Forum Posts by: Mark Grozen-Smith

Mark Grozen-Smith has started 12 posts and replied 39 times.

Post: Short Term Rental Expense Ratio

Mark Grozen-SmithPosted
  • Investor
  • San Francisco, CA
  • Posts 39
  • Votes 9

Going really well! Got it all up and running and we have reservations coming in. Definitely a bit nervous about the whole economic environment and all, but we're hopeful!

Post: Short Term Rental Expense Ratio

Mark Grozen-SmithPosted
  • Investor
  • San Francisco, CA
  • Posts 39
  • Votes 9

Ya we've ended up having/choosing to do a good amount of construction/rehab/inspections to get the short term rental permits. So we haven't actually gotten anything running until early March

Post: Short Term Rental Insurance Recommendations

Mark Grozen-SmithPosted
  • Investor
  • San Francisco, CA
  • Posts 39
  • Votes 9

Awesome. I'll try these out. I'm struggling to find anything with reasonable prices given the property is in a fire risk zone

Post: Short Term Rental Insurance Recommendations

Mark Grozen-SmithPosted
  • Investor
  • San Francisco, CA
  • Posts 39
  • Votes 9

Looking for STR insurance for a place in the yosemite area. Any recs?

Post: Property Value Breakdown - Land v Building

Mark Grozen-SmithPosted
  • Investor
  • San Francisco, CA
  • Posts 39
  • Votes 9

Appreciate the help Bill!

Post: Property Value Breakdown - Land v Building

Mark Grozen-SmithPosted
  • Investor
  • San Francisco, CA
  • Posts 39
  • Votes 9

@Bill Brandt They do but the estimate is not very reasonable. See my post above where I mentioned 5%. It doesn’t make sense for a $1 million property with to be only $50,000 in the building value

Post: Property Value Breakdown - Land v Building

Mark Grozen-SmithPosted
  • Investor
  • San Francisco, CA
  • Posts 39
  • Votes 9

Oh one caveat for anyone reading - the cost seg study gives you huge write off earlier. That is great if you have more income you could write off in those years, however if you already have a lot of writeoffs and your deductible income is already covered, then a cost seg study wouldn't help you. Concrete example, if you are not a "real estate professional" by taxation standards, then you can't write off personal income above $150k. If this is your situation, you should use up your current writeoffs for the first few years, then when those get close to being used up, a cost seg study could be worth it at that point. 

Post: Property Value Breakdown - Land v Building

Mark Grozen-SmithPosted
  • Investor
  • San Francisco, CA
  • Posts 39
  • Votes 9

Bill, thanks so much for the input. The replacement value could be great. 

After speaking with my agent and a couple of mentors as well, I have the following answers:

The property tax assessment is usually very conservative, especially in high value places like SoCal where some of my properties are. They'll put it at 5% building value which is not quite reasonable (ex. a $1m property would be $50k value in the building? no...), so that may be difficult to rely on in these scenarios. 

Defaulting to something like 80/20 (building/land) could be a good approach, but you need to modify it depending on location. Somewhere like SoCal again would be too much there, (ex. $1m property also isn't $800k in building value).

The 2 recommended options are DIY modeling or Cost Segregation:

DIY Modeling: Come up with some expression you could reasonably defend in county court if you get audited somehow. One idea is 80/20 which could apply, but maybe in your area it's 70/30. Another option could be coming up with the building's replacement value. Another option could be looking up comps for raw land and new construction and combining that somehow. Again, just make it something you could earnestly try to defend in a court. 

Cost Segregation: This is probably the best option, especially if you are likely to be selling properties every 5-10 years. See here for a definition but the TlDr is that a professional firm values each component of the building and land and helps you define fine grain depreciation schedules for each piece of the property. This isn't cheap, but 15k today to save an extra 30k in taxes over the next couple of years could be very worth it!

My team is planning on using a DIY model for a year or two, especially as we are doing some improvements to the properties. Then we will get a cost seg study. 

Post: Property Value Breakdown - Land v Building

Mark Grozen-SmithPosted
  • Investor
  • San Francisco, CA
  • Posts 39
  • Votes 9

Hey BiggerPocketsers (ya we really need a term for this community 😂)

My teammates in insurance/accounting and my CPA are frequently asking me how much each property in our portfolio is worth with a breakdown of land vs building value. Do you have any idea how that breakdown is typically done? The appraisals are where I would expect, but none of our appraisals do that.

Thanks!
Mark

Post: Digital Locks on Long Term Rentals

Mark Grozen-SmithPosted
  • Investor
  • San Francisco, CA
  • Posts 39
  • Votes 9

@Colleen F. Awesome overview. Ya we have an 8 unit, so I'm thinking I'll try 1 unit with the digital lock and if that goes well we'll expand it!