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All Forum Posts by: Greg Miller

Greg Miller has started 1 posts and replied 9 times.

Post: Detroit Neighborhood Ratings

Greg Miller
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Drive it. 

As Travis says, its block by block. 

And Detroit is NOT a good city to "google street view". The views are often a couple years old and the area, property and neighbors has more likely changed drastically. Best to see it in person or have boots on the ground that you trust.

Post: Brush Town vs Corktown Neighborhood for investment property

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Quote from @Ryan Svedin:

Hi,

Very new to BP and real estate investing. I am looking to purchase my first investment property and have been looking into Detroit. It seems that Corktown is one of the best neighborhoods to visit / live in due to all the restaurants, coffee shops, pubs, great walk score, etc. How does Brush Park compare against it? I found a very nice condo over there but the walk score is a bit less and there doesn't seem to be very many restaurants / pubs / coffee shops nearby.

Haven't decided yet if STR or LTR as still early in my research. Any advice here would also be appreciated.

Thanks!


Both of these areas are good areas with lots of new investments. Detroit in general does not have great walking scores as its the home of the automobile, but brush park is definitely more centralized making the future walking score rise, where Corktown, although a lot going on in the area, doesn't directly neighbour another area, so walking to another area is a bit of a hike currently. With all the new bike lanes going in, the riding score should rise too!! Both are great areas for STR, but again, brush is centralized around all the main venues/arenas.

Post: What's up with Detroit and all the horror stories about it?

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Quote from @Bob Stevens:
Quote from @Dan Tran:

I'm interested in investing in cheaper properties for Section 8 buy & hold, and the numbers/inventory are almost suspiciously attractive in Detroit, MI.

A lot of BP posts and threads, as well as a few google searches, warn a lot about scams, agents misrepresenting 'turnkey' properties, crooked PM companies, a slow HA office, and very high crime. 

How much of this is exaggeration? Has anyone on this forum successfully done OOS investing in Detroit? 

How relatively difficult (compared to ex. Ohio) is it to evict a troublesome tenant in Detroit? 


 I have worked in many different markets from KS, to Indi, to Memphis and Detroit. I left them all and have been working in the Cleveland markets for about 10 years, I recall buying one in Detroit about 11 years ago, total disaster, we just walked away, I am sure you can be successful there, however, you better have a SUPER team in place.

All the best  


 A lot has changed in Detroit in 11 years. 11 years ago, the city hadn't even declared bankruptcy. 2013 was the burnt ashes and the phoenix is still rising. So much growth from 2017 to present. You should come for another visit!

Post: Canadian Investor in Detroit

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Quote from @Tim Bee:

Very high violent crime in Detroit.  Lots of strong storms.  High maintenance costs.  I know it's cheap but all these factors have to be considered.


 Hey Tim, 

I agree with Drew. California wild fires, drought and flooding are only making it harder to get insurance. Fires have taken out full towns and cities. There are a number of areas where violent crime exists, but as investors we research and avoid the noise to find the facts. 

Come for a visit and I'll show you why Detroit is a great place to invest.

Post: Canadian Investor in Detroit

Greg Miller
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Quote from @Gulraiz Hanif:

Hello guys! I am a Canadian investor planning to invest in Detroit. Looking to connect with likeminded people


 Hey Man, I'm Canadian and have properties in Detroit. Lets connect

Post: First Detroit Single-family hack

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Quote from @Paul Pratt:

Congrats Greg! Looks amazing. I'm sure you had a ton of doubters but you made it happen. Always love seeing these transformations, your are re-shaping the city in a positive way by doing this.


 Thanks Paul. When I hear from Detroit doubters, I always ask, "When was the last time you visited...?"   

#SeeDetroitAgainForTheFirstTime

Post: First Detroit Single-family hack

Greg Miller
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Quote from @Travis Biziorek:

Looks gorgeous, Greg. Congrats! I'm a huge advocate for Detroit and love seeing more successes there. Keep it up!


 Hey Travis. Thanks so much. I advocate for Detroit any chance I get. The houses hold the beauty, I'm just polishing them up.

Post: First Detroit Single-family hack

Greg Miller
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Quote from @Sharon Mittelman:

Congratulation Greg! Looking great. If I'm in the area, I would want to stay in your place.


 Thank you! Welcome any time.  Come for a stay.

Post: First Detroit Single-family hack

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Investment Info:

Small multi-family (2-4 units) buy & hold investment.

Purchase price: $24,000
Cash invested: $150,000

Purchased uninhabited single family home. House hacked for 2. Invested all cash as I am a Canadian resident but I love Detroit. $150k in with purchase price and renovations. ARV sits around $229-259k.
1st unit (1bd/1bath) currently STR - 6 months = $11k in Rental income 2k cashflow
2nd unit (2bd/1bath) being completed for STR
3rd floor Owners suite to be completed to be combined with 2nd unit for larger groups.

The area is seeing high appreciation even in the the slow down.

What made you interested in investing in this type of deal?

While working, I've been renovating and renting a couple multi-families in Toronto, but I also fell for the energy and possibilities in Detroit. Say what you will, but the city has an energy and strength for perseverance unlike many others. The homes are strong with great character that is expensive to add today. The homes were built in the Auto industry boom. There is intrinsic value in these homes and just need a little love and choosing the right areas. I now have 2 x 2 w/ a 3rd in probate

How did you find this deal and how did you negotiate it?

Found it on trulia and sent it to an agent I was working with. It had come down already, I negotiated $1000 less than asking, for $24k

How did you finance this deal?

Cash

What was the outcome?

There were many challenges but the outcome has been worth it.

Lessons learned? Challenges?

Problems with reliable trades, but that is slowing resolving itself.
Securing additional capital(loans, mortgages) have been difficult. Both being Canadian with a Michigan LP, and the lower value of homes for things like hard money.