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All Forum Posts by: Greg Lee

Greg Lee has started 2 posts and replied 8 times.

Post: Can I use a 1031

Greg LeePosted
  • Indian River, MI
  • Posts 8
  • Votes 1
Quote from @Mark S.:

@Greg Lee Property tax payments are not included in your basis.

 @Mark S.Thank you mark. 

Post: Can I use a 1031

Greg LeePosted
  • Indian River, MI
  • Posts 8
  • Votes 1
Quote from @David M.:

@Greg Lee.

That's what I've been harping at...  The "profit" is lets say:   income minus expense.  Well your income is the sale price (less cost of the sale e.g. realtor fees, closign costs, etc.).  Your expense is what you bought it for.  So... what did you buy it for?  

The difference between basically the sales price and the purchase price is your profit (buy a widget for $1 and sell it for $3, and your profit is $2, not 3).  The, the long term capital gains tax is generally about 15%..

It may cost yo ur more to 1031 and purchase another property than just to pay the tax.  Meanwhile, you said you wanted to build reserves, etc.  Well, now you will have cash to do that...


 @David Got it. So I bought it for 138K. I have paid roughly 20k in taxes while I have owned it so 158K paid to date.  Sale price is 190K minus closing cost, title insurance etc. brings it to 186K.  186K-158K = 28K Profit that I will be taxed on if I'm understanding correctly. 

Post: Can I use a 1031

Greg LeePosted
  • Indian River, MI
  • Posts 8
  • Votes 1
Quote from @David M.:

@Greg Lee

So, is your profit $186k?

Also, you usually don't get to borrow much from vacant land.


 That is the sale price. So would that be considered the profit? I don't know that answer... 

Post: Can I use a 1031

Greg LeePosted
  • Indian River, MI
  • Posts 8
  • Votes 1
Quote from @Dave Foster:

@Greg Lee, I forgot the most important thing for you - if you want to do a 1031 exchange the QI for your exchange has to be involved prior to closing the sale of your old property.  So time is of the essence for you.


 Thank you, I did read that in some other comments... So I would push off the closing until I get that done if I go that route.. 

Post: Can I use a 1031

Greg LeePosted
  • Indian River, MI
  • Posts 8
  • Votes 1
Quote from @Dave Foster:

@Greg Lee, You can always do a 1031 exchange which would defer indefinitely the taxes on that sale.  That would not generate cash to move to other investments for you.   But real estate is an asset.  It absolutely makes your net worth look better.

Your tax will be the 15% that mentioned.  But also MI will ding you a little less than 5%.  So it could be real money that you defer in the 1031.  

I get it about building your savings.  But losing 20% immediately just to move an asset from one class to another is a pretty tough pill to swallow.  Plus, as long as it's in real estate you can't spend it :)

I'll reach out via pm.

Yes, 20% really stinks...  And that point I'm loosing money on this deal overall in the long run.  I could just cancel the deal and borrow against it to buy a income property which I did not think about... Taxes are now 9500 a year...  

Post: Can I use a 1031

Greg LeePosted
  • Indian River, MI
  • Posts 8
  • Votes 1
Quote from @David M.:

@Greg Lee

@Greg Lee

First lets check:  is your profit on the expected sale $186k?  Or, is the land worth $186k?  What did you pay for it?  Did you make any improvements?

With the sale next week, you've got some stuff to put in place.  You need to find a QI to handle the funds.  You or your attorney can't receive the funds.  It has to be held by a QI.  Don't forget the timings...  @Dave Foster can explain all that better...

Instead of potentially pushing a bad position, you do realize the long term capital gains tax is 15% on the PROFIT, not the proceeds.  Yeah, it sucks to be taxed, but make sure you are doing the 1031 for the right reasons to meet your strategy.  


Post: Can I use a 1031

Greg LeePosted
  • Indian River, MI
  • Posts 8
  • Votes 1

I'm selling some vacant land in the very near future (Next week) and I'm trying to figure out what to do with the money to not get hammered with taxes. It was something that was not on my radar.... I don't need to use the money in the near future but will if necessary. It's about $186K. I really need to build savings, IRA, retirement because I'm way behind for that at my age... Thank you in advance

Post: Selling Vacant Land and need to put cash to work

Greg LeePosted
  • Indian River, MI
  • Posts 8
  • Votes 1

I'm selling some vacant land in the very near future (Next week) and I'm trying to figure out what to do with the money to not get hammered with taxes. It was something that was not on my radar.... I don't need to use the money in the near future but will if necessary. It's about $186K. I really need to build savings, IRA, retirement because I'm way behind for that at my age... Thank you in advance for the input!