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All Forum Posts by: Greg Kasmer

Greg Kasmer has started 1 posts and replied 506 times.

Post: Using OPM to invest in real estate

Greg KasmerPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Philadelphia
  • Posts 513
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Priscilla - I think for your first deal you'll need to put in a chunk of cash yourself and perhaps combine with another private investor/lender. For example, if you buy with cash maybe you find 2-3 people to give you money for the renovations. Then, after you drive up the value you can refinance the property and get a 75% cash out refinance. With that cash from the refinance you pay your lenders back and retain what is left. I think if you do that once or twice you'll be in a better position to then secure a hard money loan from another lender and appropriate leverage OPM in a larger way. Good Luck!

Post: Seller financing for apartment complex

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  • Philadelphia
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Santosh - I've been searching for some seller financing deal in multi-family, but as others have said they are very hard to come by. I've had some interest in older owners that have had the properties a while (15+ years) and are near retirement. If you pull lists from a data source, I would target owners with high equity and/or length of ownership as a start. In the end, you'll still need to make a TON of calls/outreaches, but you never know! Good Luck!

Post: Understanding how to profit from 4 plex.

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  • Philadelphia
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@Chris Lo - If you're asking if this is a "deal" by sharing your numbers above... then I would say that cash flow of $714 per month would be $8,568 for the year or about 2.1% of your downpayment of $400,000. My initial reaction is that the cash flow is not good on this one, so unless you think you're buying the 4 plex at a discount (relative to other comps in the area) , I don't think this is a wise use of $400k. I see most trying to aim for a 6-10% CoC return "as is" and then hopefully see some upside over time with increase in rents or appreciation. Just my two cents :) Good Luck!

Post: 15 unit asking 2.5m!!! Can a newbie do it?

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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Philadelphia
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Andrew - As others have mentioned this is a big project to start with, but in order to understand if this is a deal that might be a good fit for someone else you'll need to share your pro forma / income statement. As Chris mentioned it appears as though this is about a 5% cap based on what you're indicating above. Given that interest rates are about 6-7% or so someone buying this will be in a "negative leverage" position.... So, in order for this to be enticing their would have to be substantial upside in the NOI. Good Luck!

Post: UNDERCONTRACT Multifamily 3-unit

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  • Rental Property Investor
  • Philadelphia
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Quote from @Stuart Udis:

Robert is 100% correct. There are always opportunity on the MLS....properties that are listed/categorized incorrectly....properties that rely on public record square footage that is not accurate but the broker is too lazy to verify and simply relies on the autofill data, properties that have base zoning that allows for a better use, properties with unique characteristics that are not properly detailed in the marketing information, properties that are simply listed over priced and become stale and are good negotiation opportunities.

It takes time to identify these properties and often requires physical observation, not merely sitting behind a computer scanning through property listings, but they are out there. Also, the MLS/listed scenarios allow for more favorable settlement terms (the opportunity for more thorough diligence and deal analysis & ability to line up the best financing). The notion that MLS properties are bad investments because eyes are on them is the biggest misconception out there. Most "off market" properties are sent out to huge buyer lists of the most unsophisticated and inexperienced investors and those are the individuals you are beating out on term.

Here are real examples of MLS properties I recently purchased:

6370 Germantown Avenue: Four unit mix-use with one unit occupied. MLS listing indicated the property was 2400 SF and did not indicate the number of bedrooms in the 3 apartment units. Anyone who viewed listing would assume the units were studios or 1 Beds based on building SF. I toured the building, observed each apartment unit was a 2 bedroom, and was significantly larger than 2400 SF. Architect ultimately surveyed the building and verified the building was 4,100 SF. I purchased the building for $430,000, other investors reached out telling me I overpaid, but didn't realize my building rent roll once occupied would be $7,300 instead of the $5,200 they underwrote sitting behind their computer screen. This will perform as a true 8% cap fully leased.

7200 Germantown Avenue: Listed for $2.15M. Listing contained no interior photos and a limited write up with most who viewed the listing focused on "two retail spaces and "9 (1) bedroom apartments"  At first look most would pass over this because they would see $195K/unit with 9 being 1 bedroom units. Listing didn't mention the retail spaces were 3,250 SF and 3,400 SF respectively. One was leased for $5800/m to a credit tenant and the other was a corner space that had a 3 year old HVAC system and ventilation system in the kitchen area already installed. Nor did it show the 700 SF solarium on the second floor or the fact 4 of the "1 bedroom" apartments were 800+ SF with some of the best floor plans you can produce. I offered $1.73M for the building days after it was listed and 6 months later ended up buying the building for $1.73M. The building appraised as-is for $2.1m. I bought the building with a $14,800 rent roll. Through renovations of the apartment units and recently executing a lease for the restaurant space, by the fall my rent roll will be increased to $29,600.00, My total costs will be $2.85M, and anticipate stabilized valuation to be $4M and is a true trophy property I will own with my capital partners for years to come. 

There's a ton of others I've picked up off the MLS, these are just examples of what thorough observation of MLS properties can yield. I am also on countless wholesaler and broker "off market" lists and no properties ever compare to what I buy on the MLS. I will however buy directly from sellers, that's the only other avenue I rely upon which also yield similar results.


 Stuart - Thanks for sharing your two stories of recent purchases! Great deals!

Post: Multifamily Cash Investors - An amazing time..??

Greg KasmerPosted
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  • Philadelphia
  • Posts 513
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@Jake Andronico - Just curious for you to clarify... Your buyer had a 1031 exchange funds and paid the entirety of the 8 plex purchase in cash? Were they transitioning from a smaller investment?

Post: How to Attract Private Lenders for 6+ Unit Multifamily Properties?

Greg KasmerPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Philadelphia
  • Posts 513
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Quote from @Frank Alfano:

Hi BP Community,

I'm a multifamily investor based in NJ, transitioning from smaller multifamily units to 6+ unit properties. My goal is to acquire and stabilize these larger properties using private lending to fund down payments and renovations while executing a BRRR strategy.

I’d love to connect with private lenders or experienced investors who’ve used private capital for similar deals. How do you typically find your lenders, and what’s worked best for structuring deals?

Open to advice, tips, or even collaborations! Looking forward to learning from this amazing community.


 Frank - I'm targeting multifamily near you in Pennsylvania. Similar target of 5-20 units. I've been thinking about ways to bring in some partners and investors in the deals and would be interested in talking shop! I'll reach out!

Post: First home Loan amount

Greg KasmerPosted
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  • Philadelphia
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@Jesus Gonzalez - The best way to approach this question is to talk to a mortgage broker or local bank lender. They can talk to you about your situation and provide some guidance. They'll focus on your DTI (Debt to Income) ratios and see how your current income can support the new debt - including any existing debt payments you have currently. My initial reaction is that given today's higher interest rates I don't think $100k income will support an 800k loan because the loan payment on an 800k loan (30 Year Am and 7% interest) is about $5,000 - $5,500 and your income is about $8,300 per month. You'll need more cushion between your income and debt payments to account for everything else - taxes, insurance, food, living expenses, etc... Talk to a lender and see what they say!

Post: This is exactly how much it cost me to rehab a 2bed 1 bath apartment in Philly

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  • Philadelphia
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Quote from @Alan Asriants:
Quote from @Greg Kasmer:

@Alan Asriants - Impressive rehab. I was able to do a reno like that for that price point about 7-8 years ago. My typical rehab was 4-5 weeks and I was paying about $3,250 per week in labor. Now, that contractor is $4,250 per week with materials higher as well. To mitigate the labor expense I've tried to sub out some work (i.e. Flooring) to help with costs, but that only helps a bit. What type of return metric do you use for your renovations? Was this an update to the unit that enabled you to increase rents?  


Yes this was an update to the unit. To be honest I couldve gotten away with a much cheaper rehab (kept older kitchen and bath, just did sheetrock work, flooring, and lighting). I figure I wouldve already invested so much that an additional 15k or so would've been silly not to. It wasn't the best ROI to be honest but should help me rent higher (around 200/m more) and quicker


 Alan - And Hopefully the kitchen and bath reno will last another 10-15 years and serve you and your tenants well. Congrats!

Post: Should I do a heloc to create a rental in my basement?

Greg KasmerPosted
  • Rental Property Investor
  • Philadelphia
  • Posts 513
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Quote from @Brenden Sperl:

@Greg Kasmer- I would live in the upstairs of the house and create 2 units downstairs. Hoping that each of them produce $1500 in rent, I’d like to get $3,000 total which would be enough to cover my mortgage. 

Brenden - An additional $3k per month by paying $50k? That’s a great ROI in my book. However, just check the zoning to make sure you can convert he single family to a triplex. Good luck!