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All Forum Posts by: Grant Stuard

Grant Stuard has started 1 posts and replied 7 times.

Post: How are people scaling so fast?

Grant Stuard
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Quote from @Whit B.:
Quote from @Justin Brickman:

Love this question. I've been able to buy every 6 months for the last few years using a conventional 5% down with the same lender. However I move into the home and live in it, while adding value with cosmetic updates (flooring,paint, etc) and I also spend time furnishing it. Once it's ready to go, I put it up for midterm rental and try to keep the cycle going. Although it's worked for me, I know most people can't move homes every 6 months. But you can also get creative with financing through owner finance, subject-to, hard money, etc. 

Nothing quite like openly admitting to mortgage fraud on a public forum.

For those curious…this could absolutely land you in jail. It’s not a strategy, it is a class C felony punishable by up to 20 years in prison. 

But don’t let me stop you. 

 clarify what you mean. If the lender is aware of this strategy, and they have a 6 month primary residence term, how could this be fraud (legally)

Post: How are people scaling so fast?

Grant Stuard
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  • Houston TX
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Quote from @Eliyahou Gronstein:

opm other people's  money get percentage of the deals don't out up any money


 **(off topic entirely)** could I ask about your name? Thinking of naming my son Elihu from the book of Job. Is your name the Hebrew variation of the name? Also could you tell me more about your name? When we told someone about the possible naming of our child that, they said "Do you mean Eliyahu?" Just curious. Thank you!

Post: How are people scaling so fast?

Grant Stuard
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Quote from @Ned Carey:

@Grant Stuard 
      "What do you guys think I can do to get 3 properties a month?"

Why would you want to? I would much rather buy fewer deal that are better deals. Scaling that fast may work for a very few but for most that will be more stress and risk for not much more if even any extra reward. 


Personally, I see that many good deals a month. If I could acquire 30 of these in a year, or even 15 of them, then I can spend the rest of my high earning career to pay them off, or at least pay enough per month to get the homes bought out over 7-10 years. I guess I am not trying to really acquire THAT many, but I want to learn how other people are doing it to see if I can adapt some of that strategy. I know 5 deals RIGHT NOW that I would move on if I had unlimited money. Just trying to figure out how people are doing it. Maybe I can do 2 instead of the one that I'm lasering in on.

But to answer your question more directly, I have lofty goals of 100K net monthly rental income. (mid and long term rentals) If I get 30 homes that get 3000 income a month (all my (4) currently do) then my goal is done and I can move forward with that firm financial foundation to do things that I really want to do in my personal life/non-profit space. I don't want to acquire one a year, because that will take 30 years lol. If I got em all now, I could pay them all off in 7-10 God Willing, and reach my goals much faster. I do not want to HAVE to do something like smash my face against someone else to maintain the cashflow that my current W-2 brings in. I honestly would like to maybe be a school teacher or pastor. I always feel weird about pastors raking in cash, so I would like my real estate to be able to front my income at a larger scale than most. Sorry for the winded answer, but my 100 acre ranch isn't gonna buy itself lol.

Post: How are people scaling so fast?

Grant Stuard
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  • Houston TX
  • Posts 9
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Quote from @Ursula Leake:
Hi Grant! Love what you’ve built! As far as getting HELOC’s did you find it difficult to find lenders willing to do this on your investment properties? I know it’s much easier for primary residence’s. Can you share the lenders you’ve used to achieve this?

 Quote from @John Morgan:

@Grant Stuard

I've got 24 SFR and it took me 8 years. It was slow the first 5 or 6 years since I could only afford to buy 2 houses a year. But I found ways by getting creative with finances like doing five 401k loans to acquire houses. I've used 0% for a year credit cards to buy houses several times (just did one last month-lol). I used a HELOC to snag 2 houses (my first 2 rentals). And I've bought 12 houses with zero out of pocket $ by doing cash out refis on houses that had some equity I wanted to tap into. I've paid myself back every penny I've ever put into real estate so it's infinite cash flow from here on out. But I've found ways to get the cash for down payments then have harvested equity to scale up.


 Hey @Ursula Leake I have never used a Heloc, only cash. I believe your question could be directed to @John Morgan

Post: How are people scaling so fast?

Grant Stuard
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Quote from @Timothy Howdeshell:
Quote from @Grant Stuard:

I have listened to some podcasts, and have heard people saying they got their first 7 properties in 11 months. Some even crazier. I have 5 properties, but I have used all my money to purchase these properties at 25% down and now I am renting them out. I would like to have 30 rentals (that is my goal) and I have the deals. I just don't have the capital to move all at once. I know there is private money lending that can fund some of these new construction deals, but I don't want to sell them for profit after. I want to keep them as rentals. Are there lenders that would let me pay them like a traditional mortgage? (over that long period of time)? What do you guys think I can do to get 3 properties a month?


 I feel you. It can be discouraging. We are in a similar position on door count and I've listened to a ton of content, read books, etc. Here are the commonalities that I've observed: 

1. They have an investing system/framework that they know, or believe in enough to act as if, works. They are confident in the acquisition, management, and dispo of properties. This makes them confident to actually execute. This is an often overlooked component. One commenter here noted that he was purchasing distressed inventory off market and/or using creative financing, delayed financing, private money, or all of the above. Yes, this is great and definitely works. The part that is not stated is that there is a whole sales and marketing engine that needs to be set up to execute on this. And that either takes time (tons of time) or money (can cut the time or just hire labor and advertising to start the business engine), neither of which you're likely to put into this without a strong belief that it will pay off. 

2. They have a financing system. They either have lots of money, have a deal pipeline which reduces out of pocket cash, partnerships, private lenders, hard money, bank relationships, or some combination of the above. It takes money to make money, no matter what. The exception is where you're putting in "sweat equity" to create a great deal for yourself, but that takes knowledge and time at the very least (or marketing $), and your time is worth something. So not really an exception. 

3. They have deal flow. 

4. They have relationships. 

You can find examples of people who have succeeded highly with just one of these components, but the more you have behind you the better off you'll be to scale quickly.

To get to 3 properties a month, start building out the system for yourself to do this. I would focus on relationships and deals. Also, it's pretty tough to buy 36 properties/yr, even if it's your full time gig. But buying 1 40 unit property/yr.? Probably a lot easier. 


 Thank you Tim. This was the most helpful!

Post: How are people scaling so fast?

Grant Stuard
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  • Houston TX
  • Posts 9
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Quote from @Zachary Cain Humphrey:

Private money lenders may do terms like a bank, but in essence your asking for a creative type of financing like sub to or seller finance deals. 

Ive had a bit of struggle connecting to private money lenders. Without a significant reputation backing you or social media reputation thats positive it is difficult to get others to do deals with you. 


Ultimately do you have equity you can tap into in the form of Heloc ? What is your purchase prices your looking into?


 I really appreciate everyone chiming in. This is my first post on BP and I’m super grateful for the engagement. I didn’t consider people that are partnering in deals or just have a minority stake. I also didn’t consider there are people buying homes for 50k cash or something like that. To answer some questions, I have 400K in cash to purchase, and my home prices that I’m looking for are around 330K fully built, probably 190K to build. Thank you guys!

Post: How are people scaling so fast?

Grant Stuard
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  • Houston TX
  • Posts 9
  • Votes 33

I have listened to some podcasts, and have heard people saying they got their first 7 properties in 11 months. Some even crazier. I have 5 properties, but I have used all my money to purchase these properties at 25% down and now I am renting them out. I would like to have 30 rentals (that is my goal) and I have the deals. I just don't have the capital to move all at once. I know there is private money lending that can fund some of these new construction deals, but I don't want to sell them for profit after. I want to keep them as rentals. Are there lenders that would let me pay them like a traditional mortgage? (over that long period of time)? What do you guys think I can do to get 3 properties a month?