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All Forum Posts by: Grant Smith

Grant Smith has started 3 posts and replied 12 times.

Post: Buy and hold strategies that are working

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Quote from @Dan H.:

I know nothing about Richmond, but I have confidence its lower class areas are 1) going to be a lot of work 2) not as profitable as projected. 

House hacking is an option. Alternative rent options other than LTR (rent by room, STR, MTR) is an option, alternate finance options (owner finance, subject to, lease to own, etc) is an option.

Value adds are an option. Do not limit options to rehabs; everyone can see a rehab, no creativity involved. Look at lot splits, co-ops (TIC), converting non-living space (workshops, out buildings, etc) to ADU, mixed use (retail/residential), converting non residential to residential (I know of someone that recently converted a church to residential but office space is currently battered (cheap)).

Avoid the lower class areas and look for other options.  

Good luck


 Appreciated insight here Dan. Section 8 here in Richmond has some pretty appealing rent and cash flow but I do think avoiding some of the challenges is worthwhile for the time being and my level of risk tolerance. This validates my interest in wanting to learn more creative financing.

Post: Buy and hold strategies that are working

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Quote from @John Norman:
Quote from @Grant Smith:

Hello all,

In my past year of experience networking in Richmond, VA and growing knowledge in REI I'm finding many investors in the area seem to be wholesaling and flipping in low barrier to entry areas (Petersburg, Hopewell, East End, south of the river along Hull St) and also running Air BnB's (yet legalities here seem to be a pain with recent changes).

What areas would be recommended for lower barrier to entry price point for long-term buy and hold? It seems that most lower cost areas I'm finding correlate pretty high with section 8 or higher crime stats. Getting started my goal is to have a first property that ideally has less headache potential.

Thanks!

Grant





Grant, welcome to RVA investing! Investing for the long-term hold in SFH is getting harder and harder because financed terms well exceed LTR income. Some are forcing income with STRs, but the crackdown has started and only a matter of time before that could go away.

A few ways to buy and hold if you are needing it to cash flow: 

1) 5% down conventional loan on a 2-4 unit. Live in it for at least a year and rent the other units out. These are hard to find in RVA that arent already 70 years old and prone to expensive repairs/rehab

2) Buy with creative financing like subject-to or seller financing. Those are much more likely to be potential cash flow. 

3) Research Pad-Split. That forces some high rental income. Proximity to bus lines seems to be important, from what I have gathered. 


Hey John, I haven't heavily considered pad split. I have only looked some at mid term rentals. What kind of clientel do you know of that utilizes pad split? And I am thinking seller financing might be the best route once I get a solid foundation of this strategy.

Lastly, what thoughts do you have on RVA and surrounding areas that are lower cost barrier to entry but less prone to high crime? I'm not convinced I want to be in the lowest cost area or manage section 8 properties at the moment. 

Post: Buy and hold strategies that are working

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Hey @Peter W. I certainly wish the young kid house hack option was one that made much sense but currently not so much in the cards. With a wife and 5 month old I think we are a bit pickier about a roommate and the duplex options in Richmond are a bit lean and quite high priced. Not impossible. I have considered the primary route with low down payment. This is the first I've heard of only having to live in the property for 6 months vs 1 year. What institution offered this type of loan or is it still a feasible option to this day?

Post: Buy and hold strategies that are working

Grant SmithPosted
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Hello all,

In my past year of experience networking in Richmond, VA and growing knowledge in REI I'm finding many investors in the area seem to be wholesaling and flipping in low barrier to entry areas (Petersburg, Hopewell, East End, south of the river along Hull St) and also running Air BnB's (yet legalities here seem to be a pain with recent changes).

What areas would be recommended for lower barrier to entry price point for long-term buy and hold? It seems that most lower cost areas I'm finding correlate pretty high with section 8 or higher crime stats. Getting started my goal is to have a first property that ideally has less headache potential.

Thanks!

Grant




Post: Tax write-offs early on, and before a first property

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Thanks again @Basit Siddiqi and @David M. for the info here - very helpful for a general guide on my first year.

Post: Tax write-offs early on, and before a first property

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Quote from @David M.:

@Grant Smith

of course consult a qualified professional..

This is usually the first/early misconception: LLC's do NOT provide any tax/write-off benefits except when doing business with a non-spousal partner.

So, if you are claiming you have some business venture(s) going, you'd most likely claim the deductions on SchC of your tax return. You don't need a LLC to make the claim. It automatically a sole proprietorship.

Be happy to chat if you'd like.  Take care.


 This is great David. Thanks for the clarity. I will look further in to the SchC. 

Post: Tax write-offs early on, and before a first property

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Quote from @Joseph Palmiero:

@David M. is correct, LLCs do not provide tax benefits.  Any costs you have before you do your first deal will be considered startup costs by the IRS.  The IRS will let you elect to write-off up to $5,000 in startup cost the year you do your first deal.  I hope this answers your question.


So to understand you correctly, the ability to write off any expenses is associated with a successful deal (wholesale deal, flip, or buy and hold) in that given year? Say I spend $3,000 in education and materials this year but don't have a deal work out - no write off ability? 

Quote from @Ali Boone:

I 100% think setting up an LLC before you invest is putting the cart before the horse. For so many reasons. If you want to keep the finances separate, just create a separate checking account for the rental properties. That's what I have- an account where all the mortgages go out of and all the rental income is deposited into. There's nothing other than rental property money in and out of it. And then an umbrella insurance policy will cover liability issues for the property (which is what everyone thinks they need an LLC for).

The LLC, business credit cards, and businesses accounts are huuuuge overkill when you're just getting started.

@Ali Boone - what about when it comes to tax write-offs? In what way would a new investor capture their depreciation or costs that are capable of being written off? In my mind I feel like you need an LLC or business to be able to write items off no (thinking depreciation, property management, any tools used like Stessa/Rentredi, or classes/conferences paid for as education). Would love any insight you have.

Post: Tax write-offs early on, and before a first property

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Hi all,

I'm taking action to flip my first property this year. And, I also intend to wholesale - both as a means of building up capital which will then be used towards buy and hold properties. With that I have already paid for courses such as a BP Bootcamp, mastermind groups and conferences, and plan to buy tools to support the business (computer, a monthly app for CRM/skip tracing and Google Voice number). I do not currently have a business set up. Yet, I am fully aware of tax benefits related to operating as a business. Is it worthwhile to go ahead and set up an LLC or business to capture these smaller costs I have already incurred and will incur this year (will be $3k or so? I fully get the tax benefits of larger-scale costs involved and their value and simply don't want to overlook the current, smaller costs if there is a reasonable benefit to tracking them.

Cheers,

Grant

Post: Liens and clauses in PSAs

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Hey @Don Konipol this is exactly what I was looking for and got to validate in a group meeting last night.  Many thanks for the insights!