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All Forum Posts by: Todd Hoffman

Todd Hoffman has started 1 posts and replied 31 times.

Post: Fake Hard Money Lender?

Todd HoffmanPosted
  • Real Estate Lender
  • Littleton, CO
  • Posts 32
  • Votes 15

Scammers use fake names and subtle changes to website addresses. Posing as a lender is often part of Advance Fee Scams promising a large loan, in return for an up-front fee (a well-known non-lending version of the Advance-Fee Scam is the “Nigerian Prince” scam).

These thieves can pose as anyone or any company. We are a local private lender and provide loans secured by property in Colorado’s Denver Metro Areas. However, with these types of scams, thieves may pretend to be from small private lenders like us or from the biggest banks.

A Real-Life Story:

  • A prospective borrower contacted me about a $4MM loan offer he received (supposedly from a “lender” whose name was almost identical to ours, except for one space and the letter ‘s’).
  • The website address was almost identical, except for the slight name difference (just that missing “s” in the website address – Real is GoodFundLending.com).
  • My company, Good Funds Lending, LLC, had NOT offered the loan.
  • The suspicious offer was even signed by the “CEO” who had LinkedIn account indicating he had a Harvard education and lots of connections. (As of writing this, I no longer see his profile on LinkedIn; But I have seen an offer now from that same company but with a female CEO who I did not find on Linkedin).
  • The ‘loan offer’ required a $30,000 wire payment prior to releasing the first $3MM in loan funds (“fee to clear”).
  • **My company has NEVER required such a fee. I can’t see why a borrower would ever do that (Even if a lender escrows borrower funds, it would be a different process, but borrowers should be extremely careful and skeptical when being asked for large amounts of money, especially if prior to loan funds being sent from the Lender).

Investigation!

  • I wondered if the other “lender” was legitimate with a similar name in another state. However, the large advance borrower payment to release funds made it clear that legitimacy was unlikely (likely advanced fee scam). RED FLAG!
  • The “lender” provided documentation indicating the lender’s office was in California, but the California Secretary of State did not show the company as registered. RED FLAG!
  • Instructions were to wire the “fee to clear” to a bank account with another company as the account holder. RED FLAG!
  • That company to receive the fee was registered in another state. RED FLAG!
  • And that company to receive the fee had information on the internet that made it appear very suspect. RED FLAG!
  • I reported the “loan offer” to authorities (more details at the bottom). SMALL EFFORTS CAN IMPROVE FOR THINGS FOR OTHERS!

Why do the scammers do it??

Stealing a large fee from the borrower may often be the sole aim. This is the Advanced Fee Scam(see below for more info).

Fake lenders can also use this technique to get information for identity theft, by obtaining personal information from applications, etc. This is essentially classic Phishing (see below for more info).

How to avoid

  1. Meet with the lender representative in person. In-person meetings mean the scammers (or agents) must be physically present which often they would prefer to avoid or simply can’t do because they are not in the state or the USA. Additionally, often scammers want to stay far away from personal meetings where his/her picture could be taken. Real private hard money lenders usually (in my experience) want to meet the borrower and see the properties in person to understand the property/project and confirm the borrower is legitimate and likely to succeed. This also gives you a chance to speak with and get a sense of the character of the lender or their representative.
  2. Be very skeptical and cautious of unsolicited email offers, action demands, or information requests, even when they come from banks or other companies you know or have a relationship with. Often the scam emails will look as those they are legitimate and from a source you know. Scammers may indicate there is a problem with an invoice, a need for updated payment information, to contact them because someone has used your account or your account has been locked out, or that they are offering free things or you something you want, like a loan.
  3. Check for misspellings or slight changes of lender names and website and email addresses. Is the name singular where it should be plural? Has an extra word like ‘of’ been added? Call the phone number listed on the website of the company. Independently find the website and don’t just rely on emailed links or phone numbers.
  4. DON’T make big up-front payments (“up-front” meaning paid before the loan funds are wired from the lender). We currently don’t charge any application fees, nor do we charge any other upfront fees. Any upfront fees totaling more than $200, should be a huge warning sign. Scammers may charge large application fees or after a loan has been “approved” charge some sort of “release fee” or require a deposit. Currently, we only charge lender fees if we make the loan, so we are not receiving compensation unless the loan is originated, and we send the loan funds (typically to a title company chosen by the borrower or seller). Some legitimate private lenders may have a small fee to cover expenses like credit checks and labor related to evaluating the application and loan. 
  5. Verify the company is registered with the secretary of state where they represent they operate. Does the BBB has the same contact information that you have (including phone domain/website?. This is different than verifying NMLS registration as that has its own issues discussed below. Check that the business is registered with the secretary of state (or other government agency responsible for tracking registrations of businesses in the state). Often scammers don’t register their fake company because it involves a credit card transaction that can be traced back to an individual. This is not foolproof, as a scammer could pretend to be someone else (but more effective when used with calling the company at a phone number on the website and verified as listed on the BBB or other trusted agency website).
  6. Check that the Lender makes loans. This is easy. You can ask the title company you have chosen, if the lender has made loans or check for public records of mortgages or deeds of trust (pay attention to subtle spelling differences or name changes). In Colorado, you can often check online with a county clerk and recorder. Keep in mind that some lenders and brokers use a different name when recording public documents. The Secretary of State (or other state authority) tracks registered tradenames(aka DBAs or aliases) associated with a registered business.
  7. Check references other than those supplied by the lender. If the buyer or seller chose the title company, you can ask the title company if they have worked with the lender before and if the contact information matches. If you ask the lender, scammers could provide phone or email information to someone they are working with to scam you. If you don't know anyone personally, you can often find borrowers listed in the recorded deeds of trusts or mortgage documents and contact them. Often an LLC will be the borrower, but the person signing for the borrower will be a member of BiggerPockets.com or LinkedIn.com, etc. Contacting borrowers has other benefits as well. You can learn how the lender treated the borrowers, etc.
  8. Verify the Lender’s address. If the Lender uses a virtual office, you can verify who holds the virtual office with the virtual office company and check the principal office address listed with the state is connected with the person or company you are speaking with.
  9. Lock/Freeze your credit to lower the risk of someone opening accounts in your name (FTC info on credit freezes https://www.consumer.ftc.gov/articles/0497-credit-freeze-faqs). This means when you do want to get credit you may need to temporarily unlock your credit.

The above steps don’t provide guarantees and are not comprehensive or exhaustive, but collectively they can substantially lessen risk.

NMLS required?? (No, see why)

Someone recommended check the NMLS registration, but this is problematic for several reasons. First, nothing stops scammers from pretending to be someone else (including his/her name and NMLS #) in an email. Many true private lenders do not have NMLS #, and they are not required to be licensed if they aren’t providing consumer loans. If they have NMLS # there is a good chance that they are a broker or “fund lender with multiple limited partners”, and you may pay more than you would with a true private local private lender.

Report crimes and attempted crimes…

If victims do not say anything, things are unlikely to change. You can make the world a little better and a little safer. Report the scams to FBI and state authorities (often the attorney general of the state). In the true story above, I reported the scam to the FBI by website after initially calling (FBI Internet Crimes Communication https://www.ic3.gov/) and the California Attorney General. Good Funds Lending, LLC only operates in Colorado. The "loan offer" indicated the other company was in California (per above).

More on Advanced Fee Scams, Phishing, and Related Scams

“An advance-fee scam is a form of fraud and one of the most common types of confidence tricks. The scam typically involves promising the victim a significant share of a large sum of money, in return for a small up-front payment, which the fraudster claims will be used to obtain the large sum. If a victim makes the payment, the fraudster either invents a series of further fees for the victim or simply disappears… variants have involved mention of a Nigerian prince or other member of a royal family seeking to transfer large sums of money out of the country—thus, these scams are sometimes called “Nigerian Prince emails” [footnotes not shown] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advance-fee_scam viewed on April 23, 2021).

Phishing is the fraudulent attempt to obtain sensitive information or data, such as usernames, passwords, credit card numbers, or other sensitive details by impersonating oneself as a trustworthy entity in a digital communication. Typically carried out by email spoofing, instant messaging, and text messaging, phishing often directs users to enter personal information at a fake website which matches the look and feel of the legitimate site.” [footnotes not shown] (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phishing viewed on April 23, 2021).

FTC – How to Recognize and Avoid Phishing Scams

The FBI reported it “received 467,361 complaints in 2019…and recorded more than $3.5 billion in losses…” related to internet-enabled crimes and scams (FBI website viewed on April 23, 2021)

IMPORTANT INFORMATION AND DISCLAIMER:

The information contained above is not comprehensive nor exhaustive and may be flawed personal opinion. You should verify, research, and check with an expert (at your own expense) prior to acting. I am not an attorney, nor a legal expert and you should not rely on the information provided. The information provided may be incomplete, insufficient, inappropriate, inaccurate, or otherwise unsuitable.

Post: Escrow adjustment question

Todd HoffmanPosted
  • Real Estate Lender
  • Littleton, CO
  • Posts 32
  • Votes 15

What is causing the short fall? Did your insurance or property taxes go up?

These types of escrow accounts are often required to make a loan, but are rarely to the benefit of the borrower (unless the borrower has an administrative or budgeting issues). Essentially the lender gets to hold your money and make interest off it. It was likely fairly disclosed in the loan documents and not hidden, but not likely advantageous for the borrower.

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The aforementioned is personal opinion and none of the content should be considered a binding offer or agreement. I make no claims, promises or guarantees about the accuracy, completeness, or adequacy of the information. I recommend consulting a qualified professional before acting.

Post: Experienced Investor Clubs/Networking In Denver?

Todd HoffmanPosted
  • Real Estate Lender
  • Littleton, CO
  • Posts 32
  • Votes 15

Thanks.

Post: Experienced Investor Clubs/Networking In Denver?

Todd HoffmanPosted
  • Real Estate Lender
  • Littleton, CO
  • Posts 32
  • Votes 15

Glad I could help. No lunch or beer necessary. If you like a post you can simply click the vote button in the upper right corner of the post.

I like to meet and learn from investors, so I would be happy to grab a drink sometime with you when you get to Denver.

Post: Experienced Investor Clubs/Networking In Denver?

Todd HoffmanPosted
  • Real Estate Lender
  • Littleton, CO
  • Posts 32
  • Votes 15

I believe renav.com, a paid subscription site, provides consoldiated info and easy way to check comps, but much of the functionality requires a subscription. I think there is a free trial. I believe one of the founders of the company runs monthly auction classes. I have heard good things.

As you probably know typically the counties have most of the info online, but you typically half to use the assessor, recorder and trustee websites.
Denvers:
http://denvergov.org/apps4/eforeclosures
[url]http://www.denvergov.org/tabid/37889/Default.aspx?link=
http://www.denvergov.org/apps/realpropertyapplication/realproperty.asp&title=Real%20Property[/url]

The aforementioned is personal opinion and none of the content should be considered a binding offer or agreement. I make no claims, promises or guarantees about the accuracy, completeness, or adequacy of the information. I recommend consulting a qualified professional before acting.

Post: Experienced Investor Clubs/Networking In Denver?

Todd HoffmanPosted
  • Real Estate Lender
  • Littleton, CO
  • Posts 32
  • Votes 15

Hi Matt,

An early pre-welcome to Colorado.

As for Denver County auctions...
In Colorado auctions are held by the public trustees of each county.

Below is a link to the Denver County public trustee
http://www.denvergov.org/clerkandrecorder/ClerkandRecorder/Foreclosures/tabid/437349/Default.aspx

I have not attended Denver's Foreclosure Sale/Auction, but my experience is that the public trustees required a certified check(or other good funds) at the auction.

I would certainly speak to expert before participating as it is a buyer beware (caveat emptor) purchase:
-No guarantee that the foreclosing lien is in first position
-No rights to inspect
-Can be redeemed out by other jr lien holders after sale
-Persons may still be living in the property and require eviction or other arrangements
-Lessees may have a grace period to leave
-All sales are final

I am not an expert and that is just my personal understanding.

The aforementioned is personal opinion and none of the content should be considered a binding offer or agreement. I make no claims, promises or guarantees about the accuracy, completeness, or adequacy of the information. I recommend consulting a qualified professional before acting.

Post: are there home improvement loans?

Todd HoffmanPosted
  • Real Estate Lender
  • Littleton, CO
  • Posts 32
  • Votes 15

Is there a reason you do not want to or you can not take out a traditional first mortgage (or HELOC) on what I assume is a free and clear investment property? I ask because it is often much cheaper than using hard or private money.

My understanding is that many banks and credit unions will still provide first position liens on investment properties (as long as it and the borrower meet the criteria).

This post is only my personal opinion. I make no claims, promises or guarantees about the accuracy, completeness, or adequacy of the information. None of the content should be considered a binding offer or agreement. Any terms or rates mentioned are subject change without notice. I am not an attorney nor am I a legal or tax professional. You should consider seeking professional legal, tax and other professional advice before acting.

Post: What start-up costs did you fail to anticipate in your business?

Todd HoffmanPosted
  • Real Estate Lender
  • Littleton, CO
  • Posts 32
  • Votes 15

If a multiple owner business, the cost to setup a clear partnership/management/operating agreements.

I have heard many be surprised by unexpected expense that could have been avoided, such as sewer repair costs.

Also I think a lot of new investors are optimistic on:
-holding costs (including interest, taxes, utilities, hoa dues etc.)
-economic vacancy rates (real vacancy + non-collectable rent and related income)
-turnover costs between tenants (normal ware and tear costs painting, carpet cleaning etc.)

I would also echo time tends to be under estimated and very costly.

This post is only my personal opinion. I make no claims, promises or guarantees about the accuracy, completeness, or adequacy of the information. None of the content should be considered a binding offer or agreement. Any terms or rates mentioned are subject change without notice. I am not an attorney nor am I a legal or tax professional. You should consider seeking professional legal, tax and other professional advice before acting.

Post: How to Avoid Lending Scams

Todd HoffmanPosted
  • Real Estate Lender
  • Littleton, CO
  • Posts 32
  • Votes 15

Jeff, good comments and reference.

One question (Admittedly I am fairly new to hard money lending). In CA do hard money lenders process loans without charging upfront for the appraisal or BPO or other valuation method? In Denver metro area all the “big” hard money lenders I know of charge $300 or more for the appraisal (or BPO or equivalent- which is more than what we charge for our valuation). Paying an appraisal (or equivalent) fee would obviously prove seriousness.

This post is only my personal opinion. I make no claims, promises or guarantees about the accuracy, completeness, or adequacy of the information. None of the content should be considered a binding offer or agreement. Any terms or rates mentioned are subject change without notice. I am not an attorney nor am I a legal or tax professional. You should consider seeking professional legal, tax and other professional advice before acting.

Post: How to Avoid Lending Scams

Todd HoffmanPosted
  • Real Estate Lender
  • Littleton, CO
  • Posts 32
  • Votes 15

Keep in mind there is a difference between conventional lending and hard money loans. Hard money loans do not usually look at income.

We charge nothing to look at the deal with a pre-approval application. We charge $200 with the full application (note: in my experience this is much less than the cost of an appraisal). At that point we run the credit and/or background checks, we do a more involved estimation of what we think the ARV and repair cost are, which typically includes a site visit. We don't require an appraisal. We don't have any other 3rd party fees except closing fees (title insurance, taxes, closing fees from title company etc. , and hazard insurance must be paid at or before closing).

I would agree that lenders and brokers that are deceptively using upfront fees (i.e. charged independent of closing) as a primary source of revenue and turning down loans even when lenders estimates are consistent with information submitted by the borrower prior to taking the fee, are acting unethically and should be fined and/or prosecuted for deceptive business practices etc.

This post is only my personal opinion. I make no claims, promises or guarantees about the accuracy, completeness, or adequacy of the information. None of the content should be considered a binding offer or agreement. Any terms or rates mentioned are subject change without notice. I am not an attorney nor am I a legal or tax professional. You should consider seeking professional legal, tax and other professional advice before acting.