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All Forum Posts by: Ginger Mermer

Ginger Mermer has started 6 posts and replied 17 times.

Post: Contingency for new build

Ginger MermerPosted
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I am currently living in and working on a flip simultaneously. I really want to flip more houses, because I enjoy it, but before I do I need to find a place to live myself. It has been a long time dream of mine to build, and I would like to go that route if possible. I don’t think I would qualify for a construction loan without selling my current house first, so I’m wondering if I can sell it contingent on the build being finished? Is that a thing? I can’t find anything on Google about it. Thanks. 

Quote from @Dustin Allen:

@Ginger Mermer

You can do it every two years if it’s your primary residence and avoid paying capital gains tax on at least part of the profits. (Not a tax specialist, consult yours and get a new one if they tell you you have to live there for 5 years).

Maybe do a couple more as a primary and build up your cash on hand. Then you could start doing another property on the side. A purely investment flip will cost you more on the tax side but it can obviously still be worth it if you’re doing it well

 Thank you!!! I appreciate it. Was hoping to find a place for myself to live that I would stay at. But I guess that may have to wait a couple years.

I purchased my own home, tackled many renovation projects (while living there for 5 years), and sold it for $125,000 more than I bought it for. Which is great, but I don’t want to wait 5 years every time, in order to make any money. I enjoyed the renovations, and would like to tackle flipping, but I can’t figure out how to make it work financially.


I am hoping to either build or buy my own house. And I want to find one to flip. But I don’t have the cash to do one of those as cash only, but I also can’t qualify for financing for two properties, even if I’m not planning to live in one. 

So my query is whether there is a way to make both those things happen. The hard money lenders I’ve spoken to can’t offer enough of the purchase price that I can make up the difference in cash. Maybe I need to be considering places in worse conditions? 

Thanks for any thoughts and ideas or advice. 

Quote from @Charles Carillo:

@Ginger Mermer

New floors, bigger deck and an updated kitchen for $15k; I think that is a little low. I would get some estimates. Also, there are going to be more repairs required than what you think.

Make sure to factor in all of your holding costs; lender fees, interest, insurance, taxes, utilities etc. How are you going to sell it? Through an agent? I would put aside 6% for that as well.

Thank you! Will get quotes and add 6%. Appreciate it. 
Quote from @Dell J.:

12k net?  I hope your numbers account for  everything.  12K can get swallowed up quickly in a flip

Yes, but I think I’m going to pull out. I didn’t realize it was going to be so little, and I found out I would have to live there for 7 months before I can sell, which I don’t want to do. That’s ok. I can focus on getting myself a house. 
Quote from @Julie Williams:

@Ginger Mermer

Some different points:

You have to start somewhere. I started learning about real estate as a hobby not to lose my mind in the early pandemic, and it is so complex and multi-faceted I will be learning until the day I die. I still ask dumb questions. There are so many to ask! 

Banks and lenders do not typically count real estate investment income or new self employment income of any kind, towards qualifying for a conventional loan, until it has come in for two years. I asked a couple of lenders if this was true even if I bought a multi-family with established tenants and provided the lender with leases and copies of the seller's/landlord's rental deposits and they said yes! This creates a dilemma for the real estate newbie, who like me is renting or living in some other housing situation they do not want to stay in. Do we buy a personal home first, and delay investing? Or do we buy an investment property first and postpone having a place we own to live in, for two years, an especially critical question now with interest rates going up fast? And then there is house hacking...living in a unit of a multi family or living in a single family house for two years to avoid capital gains taxes and then putting it under an LLC and renting it out. Most banks do not allow an individual's mortgage to be transferred to an LLC.

As far as the economy going down..maybe. The real estate market is certainly going to stop going up like a rocket. soon. It simply is not sustainable, especially as buyers are priced out of the low end of the market by rising interest rates. Whether properties appreciate slowly, go flat or lose a little value (I do not think is will be much) is anyone's guess and will have regional variations. The strength of the economy depends on what aspect of the economy you are looking at, what industry you are in and what part of the country you live in. In the Northeast, downturns have a terrible effect on working poor and the lower and middle of the middle class, but don't hurt the upper middle class and wealthy people much, if at all. There are just tons and tons of wealthy people here. And unemployment is at an historic low in most states. 

My credit rating went to hell when I had to abruptly close my business to help a sick family member. It's a bad time to buy a car, both new and used cars are at a premium, but I found a great hack for rapidly improving a credit score. I bought a car with $9000 down, which made them not consider my income or horrible credit rating, and lessened the high interest rate they charged people with credit problems. I got a six year loan and paid off the car off in two years. My credit score went up 150 points and I now qualify for all but the pickiest credit cards and quality for a mortgage. If you can't afford a new car, you could buy a used car and do this. Given the circumstances that wrecked your credit, I would also call each creditor, apologize, explain, and ask them to remove the negative comments from your credit report. Good luck! 

That was really, really helpful. Thank you so much!
Quote from @Albert Bui:

Second homes require you to take on the full hit for that PITIA or monthly principal/int/tax/insurance/assessments without rental income offset and given that investment properties are the same pricing as second homes now its typically better to buy as an investment.

The downside to investment property occupancy is that you will need a larger down payment versus second homes. 

This is the strategy your lender should be discussing with you (pros & cons).

I don’t have a lender yet. I do for the one I’m about to buy but I would like to find a different one for future deals. 
Quote from @Colleen F.:

@Ginger Mermer  so you are building an investment property to sell to build your own home and in the meantime you want to buy another property?  You might be better off waiting until you can afford it unless you partner with someone.   You have to have something to offer for that though.

I’m not building the investment property. I only want to build my own home. I will sell the investment property (after flipping), before building my own home. But once building is underway I will want to begin on a second investment property. But that would mean paying for both my own home and the new property (to flip). 
Quote from @Andrew Freed:

@Ginger Mermer - You can always go with a DSCR or Non-QM loan if your debt to income ratio won't support a second property. Those come with worse terms but allow you to purchase the property based on the income of the property and if you have the down payment. I believe David Greene's team offer these types of loans, but there are a bunch of brokers out there.

I don’t know what DSCR or Non-QM loans are but I’ll look them up. Thanks. 

I’m buying my first investment property now. I planned on selling it and then building my own home. But I was wanting to get a second investment property while the build is happening so that’s the one I’m wondering about how to finance.